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Will there be American invasion in Syria?

What is fair does not matter when weighed against what will create peace and stability. I doubt that an American/NATO military strike will further either. What is the end game if we follow this course?

Do not mutate this into your own ambitions with the "Bring peace, freedom, prosperity and stability to these people" attitude. That's not what this is about.

It's about use of Chemical Weapons. Once we get those out of use, they can hurt each other all they want.

Again, please stay on target.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/world/middleeast/syria-talks.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

America and Russia have reached a deal on the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons. I am thrilled with this as it lessens the possibility of them falling into terrorist hands.

Now if Syria would agree to it...

This is great and all.. as I really don't want to go into another war. But it's still buying them time, and it's brought up after some very childish behavior from Assad. A part of me feels like we're now rewarding this type of behavior.

But I guess I should really shut up a little in this aspect:

“This situation has no precedent,” said Amy E. Smithson, an expert on chemical weapons at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies. “They are cramming what would probably be five or six years’ worth of work into a period of several months, and they are undertaking this in an extremely difficult security environment due to the ongoing civil war.”

I had no idea the normal time line was that long. But if Syria signs on with this by Monday/Tuesday, and gets the groundwork set up in earnest, I'm for it.

All in all, I'm glad to see the US and Russia get on the same page(or at least in the same chapter) on this issue.
 
Being ignorant of your racial privilege is not an issue of morals.

Having racial privilege and being a racist are two very different things. Accusations of racism can be devastating. Levying such accusations should be done with a degree of caution consistent with the destruction they can cause.
 
Do not mutate this into your own ambitions with the "Bring peace, freedom, prosperity and stability to these people" attitude. That's not what this is about.

It's about use of Chemical Weapons. Once we get those out of use, they can hurt each other all they want.

Again, please stay on target.
Again, putting words in my mouth I never said anything about bold.

It is very much on target to talk about the stability of a country with large stockpiles of chemical weapons especially when we have a hand in its destabilization. If you're worried about Syrias chemical weapons shouldn't you be worried about them falling into the wrong hands? Tow the line all you want but(and I hate to say this) Putin is the hero of the day.
 
Again, putting words in my mouth I never said anything about bold.

It is very much on target to talk about the stability of a country with large stockpiles of chemical weapons especially when we have a hand in its destabilization. If you're worried about Syrias chemical weapons shouldn't you be worried about them falling into the wrong hands? Tow the line all you want but(and I hate to say this) Putin is the hero of the day.

You are correct, you didn't put the words in bold out there. You were merely going down that road, which I should have allowed you to go down before jumping you for it. See how someone else assuming you're going to do something or not is absolutely infuriating?

Am I worried about those weapons being in the wrong hands? Yes. But that's why we've said turn them over. As far as I'm concerned, they shouldn't even be allowed to destroy them. But so long as it's a UN approved and/or managed disposal facility, I won't be unreasonable.

Is Russia a savior? No. A huge, likely non-replaceable part in this? Yeah. Am I very thankful? Yes. But that was all outlined yesterday, so don't act like this is coming out of left field when I say Putin was very much not the villain he's portrayed in this day and age, and acted quite reasonable.
 
You are correct, you didn't put the words in bold out there. You were merely going down that road, which I should have allowed you to go down before jumping you for it. See how someone else assuming you're going to do something or not is absolutely infuriating?

Am I worried about those weapons being in the wrong hands? Yes. But that's why we've said turn them over. As far as I'm concerned, they shouldn't even be allowed to destroy them. But so long as it's a UN approved and/or managed disposal facility, I won't be unreasonable.

Is Russia a savior? No. A huge, likely non-replaceable part in this? Yeah. Am I very thankful? Yes. But that was all outlined yesterday, so don't act like this is coming out of left field when I say Putin was very much not the villain he's portrayed in this day and age, and acted quite reasonable.
No, we didn't. Obama looked for approval to strike Syria and Russia proposed the compromise. If it wasn't for opposition at the UN in Congress and from the American people we would have bombed Syria earlier this week. Why don't you and the rest of the trigger happy camp go ahead and take credit for a diplomatic solution that was forced on y'all.
 
No, we didn't. Obama looked for approval to strike Syria and Russia proposed the compromise. If it wasn't for opposition at the UN in Congress and from the American people we would have bombed Syria earlier this week. Why don't you and the rest of the trigger happy camp go ahead and take credit for a diplomatic solution that was forced on y'all.

Correct. As in, after a YEAR of warnings on the subject, we went with force. See "red line" speech in August 2012.

The end goal of this has always been getting rid of these, whether that's destruction or handing them over.
 
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It's official. The Turkish government is aiding the Syrian rebels with weaponary. A truck that was carrying the so told package was stopped by the police and was reported to be driven by the Turkish Intelligence personell who are directly connected to the prime ministry.

The police that stopped the truck is working for the Gülen cult. The int. personell are for the PM. The government and the cult are at cold war. Enes is from the Cult. So colton might wanna move this thread to the Jazz forum. Hehe.
 
It's official. The Turkish government is aiding the Syrian rebels with weaponary. A truck that was carrying the so told package was stopped by the police and was reported to be driven by the Turkish Intelligence personell who are directly connected to the prime ministry.

The police that stopped the truck is working for the Gülen cult. The int. personell are for the PM. The government and the cult are at cold war. Enes is from the Cult. So colton might wanna move this thread to the Jazz forum. Hehe.


Also the Syrian war has officially spilled into Iraq. Fallujah and another Iraqi city (not town or village) are under Al Qeada control. Then the maneuvering between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan v. Taliban, Pakistan v. Taliban and Pakistan v. India, Israel and Palestine, Yemen and Al Qaeda, Egypt protests, Hezbollah v. Hamas...

The middle east is clearly at war. It has spread beyond containment. It's region wide and has been for some time. Now it's finally known world wide (dumb masses).

Will it spread further? Every month it seems it escalates a little further. Look at all the foreign countries/entities involved. US, Russia, NATO...
 
Also the Syrian war has officially spilled into Iraq. Fallujah and another Iraqi city (not town or village) are under Al Qeada control. Then the maneuvering between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan v. Taliban, Pakistan v. Taliban and Pakistan v. India, Israel and Palestine, Yemen and Al Qaeda, Egypt protests, Hezbollah v. Hamas...

The middle east is clearly at war. It has spread beyond containment. It's region wide and has been for some time. Now it's finally known world wide (dumb masses).

Will it spread further? Every month it seems it escalates a little further. Look at all the foreign countries/entities involved. US, Russia, NATO...

After all is said and done, whatever the new borders become, they will all have a ruling party that is no better than what they currently have. Look at Egypt. They had a revolution and then overwhelmingly vote into a power a group that is arguably worse than that which they ousted. They at least got to vote I guess. I suspect that many will just have their new ruler forced upon them.
 
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