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Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?


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In related news, https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/437102-house-panel-votes-to-subpoena-mueller-report

The House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday voted to authorize a subpoena to compel the Justice Department to hand over special counsel Robert Mueller’s full report to Congress, intensifying a power struggle with the Trump administration.

In a party-line vote, the committee voted 24-17 to approve a resolution authorizing subpoenas for Mueller’s report, including accompanying exhibits and other attachments, as well as its underlying evidence. The resolution also authorizes the committee's Democratic chairman to subpoena testimony related to the special counsel's report.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said he would give Attorney General William Barr time to produce the final, unredacted report to Congress before issuing the subpoena; however he did not provide a timeline on when that would happen.

“I will give him time to change his mind,” Nadler said. “But if we cannot reach an accommodation then we will have no choice but to issue subpoenas for these materials.

"And if the department still refuses, then it should be up to a judge — not the president and not his political appointee — to decide whether the committee can review the complete record,” Nadler said, underscoring Democrats' intention to go to the courts if necessary to obtain the full report.


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Seems very possible this could go to the Supreme Court.

The Judiciary Committee should see the unredacted report. There is no reason, other than political ones, that would justify withholding it from them. If they don't want to release it to the public, that is one thing, but to withhold it from the Committee would be partisan posturing, imo. The Committee has the need to know, and the security clearances to handle the report. They are taking the high road now, and good for them, but I hope they are not thwarted in the end. I also hope history judges Barr's actions with accuracy.
 
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The Judiciary Committee should see the unredacted report. There is no reason, other than political ones, that would justify withholding it from them. If they don't want to release it to the public, that is one thing, but to withhold it from the Committee would partisan posturing, imo. The Committee has the need to know and the security clearances to handle the report. They are taking the high road now, and good for them, but I hope they are not thwarted in the end. I also hope history judges Barr's actions with accuracy.

Also the Intelligence Committee.
 
What I find rich about this whole thing is that when Bill Clinton was investigated Nadler was on the other side of the issue about the Starr report. Partisan much?

Fake news.

Just because Donald tweets out crap and Fox News spews it, doesn’t make it true.



Nadler is demanding the release of the of the report to House committees and summaries to the public. He wasn’t against the public release of summaries of the Starr report.

Facts matter.

We can start nonpartisan talk by relying on facts, not on garbage spewed by trump and his state tv.

President Donald Trump got his facts wrong when he said Rep. Jerrold Nadler “thought the concept of giving the Starr report” about President Bill Clinton “was absolutely something you could never do” in 1998.

Nadler wasn’t against releasing any of the details from the Starr report to either Congress or the public, as Trump claimed. In fact, after completing his four-year investigation of Clinton, including Clinton’s affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, independent counsel Kenneth Starr turned over the full 445-page report, along with an additional 2,000-plus pages of supporting materials, directly to the House of Representatives on Sept. 9, 1998. After that, House members debated when and how much of the report should be made public.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/trump-misstates-nadlers-position-on-starr-report/
 
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Yeah Adam Schiff is Trump's new public enemy number one...but he may be our best hope. He seems to have his teeth into this fight.

Dems didn’t win historic gains in 2018 by promising to be Trump’s lapdog.

If anything, Dems need to remember why they were sent to dc in the first place, it was to bring accountability and hell (if necessary) to this corrupt administration and their lapdogs in Congress. We’ll have plenty of time to debate health care and guns. Right now Dems should focus on getting this report released and bring Donald accountable.
 
What a surprise....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...al-exoneration-team-mueller-nope-not-so-much/

The new revelations in the New York Times and The Post about anger among Mueller investigators at Barr will make this spin — and that media framing — a lot harder to sustain.

The Times reports that some of Mueller’s investigators “have told associates” that Barr “failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry,” and that they were “more troubling” for Trump than Barr’s letter indicated. Those Mueller investigators believe Barr “should have included more of their material.” It’s not clear from the Times report how exactly these investigators thought Barr’s letter oversimplified their findings.

But The Post’s account adds substantially to this portion of the story. Barr’s letter stated that Mueller’s report details evidence on “both sides” of the question of whether Trump committed criminal obstruction of justice, and said Barr stepped in to conclude that Mueller’s findings were “not sufficient” to establish that criminality. The Post report, however, says this:

Members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that the evidence they gathered on obstruction was alarming and significant.

“It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” said one person, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the subject’s sensitivity.


Meanwhile, The Post also reports that Mueller’s team had prepared summaries of their conclusions. Critically, one official says this was done so these summaries could be shared with the public, as opposed to the public being informed by "the attorney general’s summary of their work, as turned out to be the case.”
Uh oh...

Maybe the media shouldn’t have just swallowed Barr’s summary? It’s almost like Barr had his mind made up since at least last July, wrote an op-ed criticizing the probe which caught trump’s attention, and was appointed for the specific purpose of protecting trump! Crazy, right?



The mere fact that Barr didn’t release the summaries written by team Mueller and instead released his own demonstrate that Barr was acting in bad faith. This also explains why the air tight Mueller team is now leaking. Folks, our democracy is in trouble...


You theys are so ridiculous. This is like crack for you theys isn't it? Just cant get enough. Roped right back into the conspiracy theory.

Your hopes are renewed from a "person speaking on the condition of anonymity"?

Really?

The leftsist media just keeps lying, and you keep buying. How many times can you realistically get suckered into it?

Oh no everyone, WaPo has another secret source. Better believe them this time. No way would they lie, again.
 
You theys are so ridiculous. This is like crack for you theys isn't it? Just cant get enough. Roped right back into the conspiracy theory.

Your hopes are renewed from a "person speaking on the condition of anonymity"?

Really?

The leftsist media just keeps lying, and you keep buying. How many times can you realistically get suckered into it?

Oh no everyone, WaPo has another secret source. Better believe them this time. No way would they lie, again.

You don't want the Mueller report released to the public. Got it.
 
I love it when Trumpers accuse others of believing in conspiracies.

You know, cuz trump actually won the popular vote and had the largest inauguration in history, Seth Rich was murdered by Hillary, and wind causes cancer...
 
You theys are so ridiculous. This is like crack for you theys isn't it? Just cant get enough.

I don't know about "theys", but I've never done crack. Maybe you can tell us what it's like to not get enough crack?

Let's see....

You stated Americans have interfered in the internal affairs of other nations, (and yes, I'm aware of some of that history), therefore Americans do not have the right to stand up and defend their country when it comes under attack. Got it.

You stated Americans should thank Russia and Putin for interfering in the central institution of our democracy. You tell us to thank them for attacking us. Got it.

You celebrated your seeming victory based on a summary that did not even include a single complete sentence from the actual Mueller report. Got it. "Total and complete exoneration" crows the president, and that's actually good enough for you. Got it.

Investigators from within Mueller's probe begin to leak disagreement with AG Barr, and you want it stopped, and stopped right now. Got it.

You never want the Mueller report to ever see the light of day, despite the citizens of your own nation being invested in a full accounting of that report. Evidence for obstruction was included in Mueller's report. You want the Barr whitewash. You do not want any of that report to ever see the light of day. You are fully invested in a coverup of an investigation that has been central to our national dialogue for the past two years. Got it.

You want everyone to just move on and leave Trump alone. After all, he has more important things to focus on, like wind turbines killing birds and windmill noise causing cancer. Of course.
 
You don't want the Mueller report released to the public. Got it.

Release it. I care about truth. If Im wrong Ill gladly admit it.

I wish everything the government did was transparent. Including conspiring with the media.
 
I don't know about "theys", but I've never done crack. Maybe you can tell us what it's like to not get enough crack?

Let's see....

You stated Americans have interfered in the internal affairs of other nations, (and yes, I'm aware of some of that history), therefore Americans do not have the right to stand up and defend their country when it comes under attack. Got it.

You stated Americans should thank Russia and Putin for interfering in the central institution of our democracy. You tell us to thank them for attacking us. Got it.

You celebrated your seeming victory based on a summary that did not even include a single complete sentence from the actual Mueller report. Got it. "Total and complete exoneration" crows the president, and that's actually good enough for you. Got it.

Investigators from within Mueller's probe begin to leak disagreement with AG Barr, and you want it stopped, and stopped right now. Got it.

You never want the Mueller report to ever see the light of day, despite the citizens of your own nation being invested in a full accounting of that report. Evidence for obstruction was included in Mueller's report. You want the Barr whitewash. You do not want any of that report to ever see the light of day. You are fully invested in a coverup of an investigation that has been central to our national dialogue for the past two years. Got it.

You want everyone to just move on and leave Trump alone. After all, he has more important things to focus on, like wind turbines killing birds and windmill noise causing cancer. Of course.

No.

I just dont understand you theys inconsistencies.

How can you be so upset about Trump being friendly with Russia, but upset if he isnt cosy with Mexico? How can you be upset about Russia exposing an unfair election process and at the same time complain about them creating an unfair election process?
 
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