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Woj bomb... AD to Lakers

Ellis269 said:
I’d be more than happy to get him, but at what cost? Room exception too much or too little. I really don’t know how to gauge his market. He seems like a guy who could be like DMC or Bazemore that gets a small 2 year contract, becomes a consistent rotation player and then is in line for a much bigger pay raise.
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Does Exum's contract remain the same amount if he is ded?

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JimLes said:
He creates a toxic atmosphere wherever he goes because he "just wants to win." High expectations are good, as long as you offer a high level of support. That's what makes great organizations of any kind. The problem with LeBron is that he offers zero support, and high expectations combined with no support is just bullying.

I mean, at which point in the past decade can you say that a LeBron team wasn't in some kind of turmoil? Even when they were winning, it was always some kind of instability. No one is ever safe; not teammates, not coaches. The moment something isn't going his way, he's throwing people under the bus and passive-aggressively asking for changes. His last season in Cleveland, he sent his coach and man sidekick to the hospital with anxiety. Last year with the Lakers, he said all the right stuff when he signed about how he knows the team is not a contender and how he's happy(at this stage in his career) to mentor the kids and help them develop.

What happened the moment they ran into difficulty? He was talking smack about the same kids, and then trying to force a trade for a superstar. We all know how that ended. Sure, it might be nice to play with LeBron when you're one of the superstar buddies he likes to team up with, but an NBA team is at least a dozen players. It doesn't look that fun to be one of the other guys. The Lakers are already being anointed as the 2020 Champs by bookies and journalists. What happens when there is inevitable problems during the season? What happens when the don't win the championship, which they probably won't?
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You have to understand one simple fact - the media sucks. Go watch CNN. Go watch FoxNews. It's all about creating drama. In Jordan's day, it was profitable to hide the drama (like MJ punching teammates, MJ gambling, etc.). Painting a picture of perfection helped to build the NBA after a time filled with cocaine, drugs, and off the court drama. Now, it's profitable to create any drama possible even when it doesn't exist.

So much of the LeBron stuff is overblown. Prior to this season, the only issue was Kyrie yet Kyrie was the issue. This season, LaVar was distraction. Injuries were an issue. A poor roster construction was an issue. Youthfulness was an issue. LeBron wasn't the main issue. Yes, his desire to win didn't help kids who weren't ready, but do you blame him for trying to win? The guy had been to 8 straight Finals and signed for a team whose FO screwed up filling the roster and the young guys just didn't perform. And people got hurt.

If LeBron takes AD to places he's never been this year (like past the 2nd round), this whole garbage about LeBron turmoil can finally be put to rest. His teammates love him. He wins. That's what matters.
 
LoPo said:
You have to understand one simple fact - the media sucks. Go watch CNN. Go watch FoxNews. It's all about creating drama. In Jordan's day, it was profitable to hide the drama (like MJ punching teammates, MJ gambling, etc.). Painting a picture of perfection helped to build the NBA after a time filled with cocaine, drugs, and off the court drama. Now, it's profitable to create any drama possible even when it doesn't exist.

So much of the LeBron stuff is overblown. Prior to this season, the only issue was Kyrie yet Kyrie was the issue. This season, LaVar was distraction. Injuries were an issue. A poor roster construction was an issue. Youthfulness was an issue. LeBron wasn't the main issue. Yes, his desire to win didn't help kids who weren't ready, but do you blame him for trying to win? The guy had been to 8 straight Finals and signed for a team whose FO screwed up filling the roster and the young guys just didn't perform. And people got hurt.

If LeBron takes AD to places he's never been this year (like past the 2nd round), this whole garbage about LeBron turmoil can finally be put to rest. His teammates love him. He wins. That's what matters.
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So, the guy goes back to Cleveland and gets the nickname "LeGM". It may or may not be true that he ran the show there, fine, rumors are rumors. Then he signs with the Lakers and there are rumors about tampering with Davis and the Pelicans,... weird... then everyone on the team quits on him... weird... they all get traded for AD.

Rumors are rumors, sure. But if it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...

Yeah

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Kyoto said:
So, the guy goes back to Cleveland and gets the nickname "LeGM". It may or may not be true that he ran the show there, fine, rumors are rumors. Then he signs with the Lakers and there are rumors about tampering with Davis and the Pelicans,... weird... then everyone on the team quits on him... weird... they all get traded for AD.

Rumors are rumors, sure. But if it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...

Yeah

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Does the guy have say in how to make the team work around him? Absolutely. So did Mike, so did many others in the history of the game. And the results are there. He did more with average Cleveland teams than other guys did with more talent. He had power in Cleveland, and you know what, they went to the Finals 4 straight times. His influence is a bad thing? Hell, Kyrie just apologized to LeBron for not respecting how hard a job LeBron had in building that Cleveland team. He apologized because he realized how hard it was as his Boston team underachieved under his leadership.

Last season for the Lakers was just a fiasco. A train wreck. To hang that on LeBron is dumb. The NBA is a business. When LA showed interest in AD, the kids didn't maintain professionalism. They lost focus. They got their feelings hurt while LeBron was actually hurt. It's a business.
 
LoPo said:
Does the guy have say in how to make the team work around him? Absolutely. So did Mike, so did many others in the history of the game. And the results are there. He did more with average Cleveland teams than other guys did with more talent. He had power in Cleveland, and you know what, they went to the Finals 4 straight times. His influence is a bad thing? Hell, Kyrie just apologized to LeBron for not respecting how hard a job LeBron had in building that Cleveland team. He apologized because he realized how hard it was as his Boston team underachieved under his leadership.

Last season for the Lakers was just a fiasco. A train wreck. To hang that on LeBron is dumb. The NBA is a business. When LA showed interest in AD, the kids didn't maintain professionalism. They lost focus. They got their feelings hurt while LeBron was actually hurt. It's a business.
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If you worked at a job where the guy you worked with called the shots it would get frustrating. I dont blame the younger Lakers players AT ALL for quitting on the team ESPECIALLY when the player calling the shots wants you traded while he is in a suit sitting on a injury that he took his time getting back from.

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Kyoto said:
So, the guy goes back to Cleveland and gets the nickname "LeGM". It may or may not be true that he ran the show there, fine, rumors are rumors. Then he signs with the Lakers and there are rumors about tampering with Davis and the Pelicans,... weird... then everyone on the team quits on him... weird... they all get traded for AD.

Rumors are rumors, sure. But if it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...

Yeah

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Clutch Sports orchestrated this whole thing on behalf of Lebron and AD.
 
Catchall said:
If Davis doesn't waive his trade kicker, the Lakers are starting with $23M. So far, reports are that Davis isn't waiving his trade kicker.
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Demand you get traded to a specific location. Then, when they’ve accommodated your requests, demand you collect a bonus on being traded. Awesome.
 
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