There was no reason to not get the player option, right? Was there any risk to him?
[Woj] Donovan Mitchell signs 5/195M max designated rookie extension with the Jazz
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There was no reason to not get the player option, right? Was there any risk to him?
LoPo
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This is extremely over the top. The ONLY reason for a concern would have been a deal that was less than 5 years. Donovan Mitchell is committing the next 5 years to our franchise. That means he would have committed 8 years to us.
After 8 years, he can decide if he wants to make it 9 years. Or, like many superstars do (like AD is doing as we speak), they decline the 9th year, look to re-sign for 2 years, then look to a monster deal after they are 10 years in the league.
What Donovan did was standard protocol and shows no signs whatsoever that he wants to leave Utah this year, next year or even 5 years down the road. Like Michael Corleone said - "it's strictly business".
Abdoule N'Doye would be my dream signing. Hopefully he could get out of his contract and just join the team, but idk.
Guys... what good did worrying about Hayward re-signing do us? None. I've learned my lesson with that whole ordeal - just enjoy the players while they are here and don't put your hopes on anything past that. They will do what they want to do and we have close to zero impact on that. It's on DLZ and the coaching staff to make moves that will make him want to stay and even then nothing is guaranteed. Just appreciate the players and enjoy their play while they are here.
With Hayward, it felt like things were just beginning as he left. It was 6 years in the making and it was hard not to feel robbed.
Mitchell stepped in right away and produced like Hayward day one. Whenever Mitchell decides to leave, I don't think it will feel the same way. He's given this franchise so much, and if we trade him before free agency he will leave the team with some assets to rebuild. We should win as much as we can and enjoy it while he's still here, even if it doesn't yield a championship.
He will though. Don't at all count on him playing this contract out. He got all the money, and also got a player option to leverage a trade even sooner.
You're wrong. The front office not just flat out denying the PO is inexcusable in this scenario.
It means he got the most amount of money possible guaranteed and the player option to leverage a trade ASAP. Again, he is the first player to successfully get this, which means he really really pushed for it. Its almost 2021. He will be gone by 2024. Book it.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Well, I do think One Eye has a point. Just not in the argument.
All this about DM being the first to get the player option and you haven't addressed that Tatum got the exact same contract like 10 minutes later.
It was well longer than 10 minutes, and yes once the Jazz caved, it will become the norm. Notice how Fox did not get one? The Jazz should have never allowed the PO, and he must have been refusing refusing to sign to get it. Because it was not normal at all.
MCarter
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Yeah straight up regarding the player option you’d be an idiot not to if you were a player. If you get injured, you pick it up. If you’re killing it then you opt out for a bigger contract. Tons of sense for a player, if your smart it’d be questionable not too push for it. Stop belly aching.
You're a straight up idiot to give it as a team in this situation, or to think it's a good thing as a fan.
idestroyedthetoilet
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Nearly $40 million per for a highly inefficient player. Jazz just strapped themselves in to Air Mediocrity.
LoPo
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You are the toilet
Handlogten's Heros
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Don is so much different than Gordon. At very least if he wants out he will let us know and be straight with us. We won’t lose him for nothing... players don’t stay forever. Enjoy him while we got him... he’s fun as hell.
NAOS
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Pls delete your account. I’m pretty sure you promised to do so under these circumstances. It’s really just time for you to gtfo.
NAOS
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Tatum’s negotiations were clearly happening simultaneously to Mitchell’s. Any idiot would see that. Unfortunately, you’ve gone beyond that threshold. Rip.
MCarter
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I’m not saying it’s great for team or fans, but hardly a surprise a player wants it. Prime example of how beneficial this is is Hayward’s latest opt out. If he didn’t have that and got injured again this year he’d get significantly less on open market. However he was able to opt out with the assurance of one last bag and now if he gets injured again no worries. Prime example. Idk why the jazz would really want to cause friction in negotiations with their star player. If LHM was here I doubt he’d put up a fight, and he was a world class negotiator. Gotta be a win-win deal. Avoid bad blood. Jazz get phenomenal play and PR with Donovan around.
The avoiding bad blood thing is giving him the super-max money eligibility in the deal which they also didn’t have to do. They gave him this deal a year earlier than they had to, super max eligibility throughout the length of the deal, and all the years of security they could throw at him. If there’s bad blood over saying “no, no player option, we’re doing all this” then **** him. He’s a restricted free agent, not a free agent. When you as the team have leverage you use it, because he’s never going to cut you any breaks no matter how nice you treat him, and the Jazz literally gave him everything they could here, literally every single thing while his side didn’t give an inch. Everything about this contract is perfect for him, and not great for the team.
So you are saying the jazz were the last bastion of hope the owners had against players deciding when they leave a team?
Um....ok.