Woj says the Jazz are listening to offers for Mitchell

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think the Heat do that instantaneously. That is the floor of their offer. And they're the franchise that can feel any kind of confidence that it won't result in a top-10 pick at any point.

But why would we want that? I'd rather have a mix protected/unprotected picks from NYK than owning Miami's cache tbh. Plus NYK has better young talent they can put in a trade unless you think Herro is a #2 guy and Jovic is a future star.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

seems like a no brainer to do the deal with the knicks over the heat.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But why would we want that? I'd rather have a mix protected/unprotected picks from NYK than owning Miami's cache tbh. Plus NYK has better young talent they can put in a trade unless you think Herro is a #2 guy and Jovic is a future star.

How many unprotected picks would NY be willing to part with though? Bad teams generally don't do that... which is why you hope a good team gets bad because they are willing to do it. Heat have missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 8 years. So its not impossible.

 

[KqWIN]

Getting nervous about RJ Barrett....

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

How many unprotected picks would NY be willing to part with though? Bad teams generally don't do that... which is why you hope a good team gets bad because they are willing to do it. Heat have missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 8 years. So its not impossible.

Like if you are getting 5 total picks from NYK, I would assume 2 or 3 are the protected picks from other teams. Then 2-3 would be from NYK, I would expect 1 to be unprotected.

Maybe just add in far out pick swaps. Bet that in 4-5 years you will be better than NYK. Less scary than giving up an unprotected for NYK. That way they still have a pick to make.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Getting nervous about RJ Barrett....

Elaborate.

 

[NUMBERICA]

But why would we want that? I'd rather have a mix protected/unprotected picks from NYK than owning Miami's cache tbh. Plus NYK has better young talent they can put in a trade unless you think Herro is a #2 guy and Jovic is a future star.

I'm just saying that's the starting point for me. You need at least one team to want to pull the trigger if there's another that's hesitant and you want a better package. I think the Heat and Knicks are good to play off each other.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Like if you are getting 5 total picks from NYK, I would assume 2 or 3 are the protected picks from other teams. Then 2-3 would be from NYK, I would expect 1 to be unprotected.

Maybe just add in far out pick swaps. Bet that in 4-5 years you will be better than NYK. Less scary than giving up an unprotected for NYK. That way they still have a pick to make.

And for me... I'd just rather go get the three from Miami and maybe two from the Lakers for Herro package I outlined. I think we can get protected picks for guys like Vando and Bogey so I'd aim for premium picks.

Now I would leverage the eff out of the other packages to get NY to pony up some mega package if they feel like getting wild... that is obviously a better deal. I'm just not sure how wild they will get.

 

[Eminence]

Much prefer most hypothetical Knicks offers to any offer the Heat could put up.

Orlando is sneaky intriguing to me as well.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And for me... I'd just rather go get the three from Miami and maybe two from the Lakers for Herro package I outlined. I think we can get protected picks for guys like Vando and Bogey so I'd aim for premium picks.

Now I would leverage the eff out of the other packages to get NY to pony up some mega package if they feel like getting wild... that is obviously a better deal. I'm just not sure how wild they will get.

I think Miami can only offer two picks currently.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm just saying that's the starting point for me. You need at least one team to want to pull the trigger if there's another that's hesitant and you want a better package. I think the Heat and Knicks are good to play off each other.

I know the Jazz are trying to do that to an extent, but I think playing off the threat of keeping Mitchell is much more effective than the Heat.

 

[infection]

Also, I’m betting that the league wants this to happen too. Getting a star, like Donovan Mitchell, into the biggest TV market in the country has to be a boon for the league. Especially because Mitchell grew up there and is a huge NY guy. It makes a lot of sense to all parties. . . Now all they need to do is pony up the draft capital to make it happen.

If the league is invested, then they should be in on the calls and ensuring us good ping pong returns in the agreement.