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Yesterday - Bundy Ranch

How cool would it be if Senator Reid showed everyone he's a real human being with the best interest of his constituency by initiating a sit down with Cliven Bundy to a) ensure the people have his ear, and b) try in earnest to find a win-win solution?

Don't get me wrong, Bundy needs to understand plain and clear that he's absolutely in the wrong on the land dispute, and that he needs to put in place a solid contingency plan like a good business person would. There is always the possibility that this land is too vulnerable to EVER be grazed. But how cool would it be to show the American people that Washington isn't a bunch of detached SIG a-holes without souls?

This is a high enough profile case that a senator should step in and do his job. I don't even care if that means coming up with some tax-payer funded special grant for a pilot program with the goal of making co-habitation possible or taxing this solar plant or fracking or whatever to cover the costs. All that matters to me is that the people feel like protesting will get listening ears of D.C.
 
Hey Trick, can you have your connections get that to Harry a.s.a.p. and sell it as political expediency or whatever?
 
I have mixed feelings about it all. I don't want the Bundy's to be given an inch IF they don't deserve it. I didn't like the way the feds started this thing out, I loved the support the 'little man' got, but as I've said earlier, I want the correct and reaponsible outcome.

I don't want Americans to believe they can assemble with guns and whomever has the most firepower wins.. that's certainly not a sustainable or responsible enterprise (duh). I also don't want elected officials to feel they have power over the people.. rather than to serve the people.

That's the outcome I wanted for this. To have the feds acknowledge they handled it wrong up front and do an internal investigation and provide findings to the people as to what they were thinking/intending. To seek a way to allow both sides to win.. and if such a way isn't reasonably found, to take the land from Bundy (swiftly) with a detailed plan in place as to what is to be done with it. If nothing, fine.. but if there is an intended purpose, be transparent about it.

I mainly hope we learn something, grow from it, and be better for it.
 
I think it's refreshing to know that the people can still deter the government. After all, that's kind of the point of the whole "right to bear arms" thing, it's the ultimate check of the government. Good thing Lincoln is not the president.
 
I think it's refreshing to know that the people can still deter the government. After all, that's kind of the point of the whole "right to bear arms" thing, it's the ultimate check of the government. Good thing Lincoln is not the president.

would be oldest president ever.
 
I have mixed feelings about it all. I don't want the Bundy's to be given an inch IF they don't deserve it. I didn't like the way the feds started this thing out, I loved the support the 'little man' got, but as I've said earlier, I want the correct and reaponsible outcome.

I don't want Americans to believe they can assemble with guns and whomever has the most firepower wins.. that's certainly not a sustainable or responsible enterprise (duh). I also don't want elected officials to feel they have power over the people.. rather than to serve the people.

That's the outcome I wanted for this. To have the feds acknowledge they handled it wrong up front and do an internal investigation and provide findings to the people as to what they were thinking/intending. To seek a way to allow both sides to win.. and if such a way isn't reasonably found, to take the land from Bundy (swiftly) with a detailed plan in place as to what is to be done with it. If nothing, fine.. but if there is an intended purpose, be transparent about it.

I mainly hope we learn something, grow from it, and be better for it.

I disagree completely. I think that it's vital to maintaining a nation of liberty. I don't want the people completely slave to the government, but it is getting closer to that state daily.
 
The intel is quite incredible. I spoke with Clive's sister and his son last night. They told me that they had gotten a call that a certain (unnamed here) guy leading a militia was on his way with his group to show support. The tip they got gave the name and that he's an FBI informant. The plan was to infiltrate and cause dissension among the group and try to show a greater element of craziness at the ranch (it's very mellow and subdued there). The Bundy's got word to the 'group' that they were not welcome at the ranch and that the militia on site would see that they get turned away if they show up.
 
I disagree completely. I think that it's vital to maintaining a nation of liberty. I don't want the people completely slave to the government, but it is getting closer to that state daily.

Agree.. what I was implying is getting the 'wrong' thing done because you have more guns.
 
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