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OMG PearlWatson! I never knew we had so much in common! That's totally right in all aspects! Exactly as I had imagined the founding fathers/Martin Luther King Jr.! Can I sign up for your newsletter? Or perhaps your social media blog? Maybe just follow you on twitter and instagram!

No, but you are invited to my styrofoam bonfire in honor of Earth Day.
 
https://wonkette.com/539816/sean-hannity-leaving-new-york-because-mean-gov-cuomo-doesnt-love-extreme-conservatives-enough

So extreme he takes offense to others talking about right wing extremists. If he takes offense, clearly he considers himself extremist.

So, on a personal level, he claim's he's extreme.

https://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/09/11/29022/hannity-meltdown/

Has been known to have meltdowns on the air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJhqLxeEPE

He's been targeted by Olberman, who at least was the king of the extremist left, and has been known to take aim at extremist right.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/02/sean-hannity-headlining-tea-party-event-183722.html

Last but not least, he's headlined Tea Party events.

What about him exactly isn't extremist? What's he gotta do to cross that line? Talk about the next American insurrection? Claim that a year from now is Obama is still in office I'll either be dead or in Jail?


So I guess you insist on more amply demonstrating your abuse of the notion "extreme".

Seriously, you consider Thinkprogress and Wonkette are everyday American mainstream folks.

Two totally left-over political hack/agenda pusher sites? Seriously, that's what the everyday housewife is talking about?

Let's see if you can understand this diagram:

If you gave every American one data point, a composite net sum of impressions/prejudices/ideals/wishes connected somehow to a political spectrum of any kind, and you plotted a map of where every person fits in that picture, most people would be "extremists" according to you. Hannity has millions of folks who enjoy his product and make room to listen to him sometimes.

Hannity, in my view, is a jocular sociable, lovable puppy dog wagging his tail and excited about traditional notions, held by huge numbers of Americans. He is not exactly "smart" in my book, and he is too dedicated to the Republican party to suit my taste generally, but I know a lot of people who like him.

The people who like Thinkprogress or Wonkette might all be in New York or California for all I know. You, OB, Kicky,some others would be viewed as "extremists" in rural Utah, maybe Kentucky too.

The word "extremist" has limited descriptive value because it principally is itself a point of view, and not a fact. It practically means you think something is not acceptable in polite society, which in effect means it is a word used to marginalize "others", and is a sort of prejudice/hatred sort of slur. Is that the kind of person you really want to be?

The problem with marxist rhetoric historically has been that the labels have been used to round up whole demographics of the population and either just shoot them on the spot, ship them to gulag camps, or take over their farms. That's why marxists today love to call themselves "progressives" instead.

You have fundamental issues with human rights when you use that kind of language and cannot instead bring it down to the objective differences in opinions and discuss why others believe as they do, showing some respect for them, even though your point may be to show that those beliefs are not sound in some regard.
 
No, you're here to self-aggrandize and talk about how important you are in some random niche news item.

So, business as usual.

I'm passionate about something that you are not. Yet you sure are pesky about following me around and letting me know how much smarter you are and more genuine than I am. It's been noted, but please feel free to keep it up.
 
No, you're here to self-aggrandize and talk about how important you are in some random niche news item.

So, business as usual.

calls to mind an old-fashioned religious song. . . . "Nay, Speak No Ill". . . ..

funny how right the socialist humorist Ambrose Bierce was about how people can hardly see themselves for what they are, even while they condemn others for being essentially the same as they themselves are. . . . .
 
No, you're here to self-aggrandize and talk about how important you are in some random niche news item.

So, business as usual.

calls to mind an old-fashioned religious song. . . . "Nay, Speak No Ill". . . ..

funny how right the socialist humorist Ambrose Bierce was about how people can hardly see themselves for what they are, even while they condemn others for being essentially the same as they themselves are. . . . .

So is kicky the pot or the kettle?
 
So I guess you insist on more amply demonstrating your abuse of the notion "extreme".

Seriously, you consider Thinkprogress and Wonkette are everyday American mainstream folks.

Two totally left-over political hack/agenda pusher sites? Seriously, that's what the everyday housewife is talking about?

Let's see if you can understand this diagram:

If you gave every American one data point, a composite net sum of impressions/prejudices/ideals/wishes connected somehow to a political spectrum of any kind, and you plotted a map of where every person fits in that picture, most people would be "extremists" according to you. Hannity has millions of folks who enjoy his product and make room to listen to him sometimes.

Hannity, in my view, is a jocular sociable, lovable puppy dog wagging his tail and excited about traditional notions, held by huge numbers of Americans. He is not exactly "smart" in my book, and he is too dedicated to the Republican party to suit my taste generally, but I know a lot of people who like him.

The people who like Thinkprogress or Wonkette might all be in New York or California for all I know. You, OB, Kicky,some others would be viewed as "extremists" in rural Utah, maybe Kentucky too.

The word "extremist" has limited descriptive value because it principally is itself a point of view, and not a fact. It practically means you think something is not acceptable in polite society, which in effect means it is a word used to marginalize "others", and is a sort of prejudice/hatred sort of slur. Is that the kind of person you really want to be?

The problem with marxist rhetoric historically has been that the labels have been used to round up whole demographics of the population and either just shoot them on the spot, ship them to gulag camps, or take over their farms. That's why marxists today love to call themselves "progressives" instead.

You have fundamental issues with human rights when you use that kind of language and cannot instead bring it down to the objective differences in opinions and discuss why others believe as they do, showing some respect for them, even though your point may be to show that those beliefs are not sound in some regard.

Actually, all I did was google hannity extreme and came up with these. As if I needed more evidence, but I figure I better show you that there totally is another way to think besides your own(a lesson even I sometimes forget).

"Objective differences in opinions" and "Take my ball and go home" are entirely two different things.
 
I'm passionate about something that you are not. Yet you sure are pesky about following me around and letting me know how much smarter you are and more genuine than I am. It's been noted, but please feel free to keep it up.

Passion without thought is just a lot of hot air.

I'm not really certain what constitutes "following you around." We interact in very few threads (I'm pretty sure this is the only one presently) and I let you run around in this thread for a week or two before I said anything pointing out that you were misrepresenting timelines, quoting articles without linking to them, and posting court cases without any context as to why they were analogous to the Bundy's situation. I can assure you that I'm not so focused on you as an individual that I feel the need to "follow you around."

I had a mild interest in the underlying subject matter, and any amount of research or reading of the court documents in this case leads to the conclusion that the Bundy's haven't been deprived of due process or treated unfairly and have simply lost on the law. You don't seem capable of engaging on that front but are really invested in being a weekend rancher and/or militia groupie. I'm sure this is fun, but that's about all it is. Bunch of boys playing army guy.
 
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