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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

David Stern said:
Let's pretend that we sign Tobias for the max. What the hell do we do for a point guard at that point?
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Anyway, I’m in the Conley + Niko/Jabari > Harris camp.
 
Go find the 3rd really good player (doesn't matter the position) and then start mining the interchangeables as Gordon Chiesa calls them. This would maybe necessitate renouncing Favors, letting Korver retire and letting Rubio, Neto, and perhaps a couple of others go. This assumes Ekpe and Thabo ride off into the sunset. The GLeague foreign tryout camp becomes all important.
 
Isn't trading for Korver kinda screwing us now? If he retires aren't we on the hook for his salary? Even at just the cap hold its like $4M... That can be pretty significant.
 
Mongoose said:
Isn't trading for Korver kinda screwing us now? If he retires aren't we on the hook for his salary? Even at just the cap hold its like $4M... That can be pretty significant.
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I think we can waive and stretch his guaranteed money this year if he retires... which would make his cap hit like 1.1 Million
 
So was listening to Andy Larsens on the Ben Dowsett Jazz podcast... couple things I wanted to re-visit that I thought were relevant.

- We could have absolutely had Bjelica… Andy said he wanted to come here but we didn't have interest. My guess is we could have had him for something in between what Philly and Sacramento offered to him... so all that "we don't know if he would have come here" stuff is stupid dumb. Could have waived Thabo and Jonas and easily signed him for part of the MLE. He would have been a "sniper" at the 4 and on an extremely team friendly deal.

- We didn't go after any free agents... Joe Harris and some others were mentioned... we just wanted to keep our guys. Imagine had we signed Harris to full MLE and played hardball with Exum.

- Another complaint on last year's strategy... based on this year's end of year presser DL is clearly not opposed to keeping Favs and may be leaning towards him staying... Also, Favs said his option needs to be picked up... I think he knows what his market is and that it is less than the $17-18M he would get next year. Had we got him at just a slightly lower number then guaranteeing his salary next year is a much easier thing to do... or had declining salary (at most 8%) with maybe like a $1M guarantee to compensate him. Would he have walked if we came in at $15M and 14M. Carves just a little more "flexibility" especially if we did the same thing with Exum... is Dante walking if we offered 8-8.5M and had it declining? The basic mechanics of the 1+1s give us some flexibility but execution and details of those deals could have been better for us.

I really really like DL he has been mostly right about the big things which is super important. He's failed in some of the other smaller things, which is kind of frustrating. Whatever he does this offseason it better be good.
 
David Stern said:
Let's pretend that we sign Tobias for the max. What the hell do we do for a point guard at that point?
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Larsen has thrown out the possibility that we trade Jae for Dragic, but that would be using cap space. Not sure if we waive and stretch Kyle, then sign Tobias, if we would then have enough space, and cap fodder to make up the delta between Jae's salary and Goran's salary. I also think Goran is washed.

this is why I like the idea of grabbing Conley now (if possible) then using exceptions or excess space to fill in the rest of the gap.
 
Jingled said:
I think there's a good chance we move Donovan to point guard in that scenario.

Donovan
Royce
Joe
Tobias
Rudy
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In that scenario I'd really want a good proven backup that isn't ded. I love Neto, but he's ded a lot too.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So was listening to Andy Larsens on the Ben Dowsett Jazz podcast... couple things I wanted to re-visit that I thought were relevant.

- We could have absolutely had Bjelica… Andy said he wanted to come here but we didn't have interest. My guess is we could have had him for something in between what Philly and Sacramento offered to him... so all that "we don't know if he would have come here" stuff is stupid dumb. Could have waived Thabo and Jonas and easily signed him for part of the MLE. He would have been a "sniper" at the 4 and on an extremely team friendly deal.

- We didn't go after any free agents... Joe Harris and some others were mentioned... we just wanted to keep our guys. Imagine had we signed Harris to full MLE and played hardball with Exum.

- Another complaint on last year's strategy... based on this year's end of year presser DL is clearly not opposed to keeping Favs and may be leaning towards him staying... Also, Favs said his option needs to be picked up... I think he knows what his market is and that it is less than the $17-18M he would get next year. Had we got him at just a slightly lower number then guaranteeing his salary next year is a much easier thing to do... or had declining salary (at most 8%) with maybe like a $1M guarantee to compensate him. Would he have walked if we came in at $15M and 14M. Carves just a little more "flexibility" especially if we did the same thing with Exum... is Dante walking if we offered 8-8.5M and had it declining? The basic mechanics of the 1+1s give us some flexibility but execution and details of those deals could have been better for us.

I really really like DL he has been mostly right about the big things which is super important. He's failed in some of the other smaller things, which is kind of frustrating. Whatever he does this offseason it better be good.
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And this is why for all of his great work, he is on the chopping block to me. Don't believe your own press, and get high on your own supply. That **** is for fools.

Was he aware that the Jazz got their asses kicked by the Rockets and the Rockets weren't even the best team in the conference?
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
So was listening to Andy Larsens on the Ben Dowsett Jazz podcast... couple things I wanted to re-visit that I thought were relevant.

- We could have absolutely had Bjelica… Andy said he wanted to come here but we didn't have interest. My guess is we could have had him for something in between what Philly and Sacramento offered to him... so all that "we don't know if he would have come here" stuff is stupid dumb. Could have waived Thabo and Jonas and easily signed him for part of the MLE. He would have been a "sniper" at the 4 and on an extremely team friendly deal.

- We didn't go after any free agents... Joe Harris and some others were mentioned... we just wanted to keep our guys. Imagine had we signed Harris to full MLE and played hardball with Exum.

- Another complaint on last year's strategy... based on this year's end of year presser DL is clearly not opposed to keeping Favs and may be leaning towards him staying... Also, Favs said his option needs to be picked up... I think he knows what his market is and that it is less than the $17-18M he would get next year. Had we got him at just a slightly lower number then guaranteeing his salary next year is a much easier thing to do... or had declining salary (at most 8%) with maybe like a $1M guarantee to compensate him. Would he have walked if we came in at $15M and 14M. Carves just a little more "flexibility" especially if we did the same thing with Exum... is Dante walking if we offered 8-8.5M and had it declining? The basic mechanics of the 1+1s give us some flexibility but execution and details of those deals could have been better for us.

I really really like DL he has been mostly right about the big things which is super important. He's failed in some of the other smaller things, which is kind of frustrating. Whatever he does this offseason it better be good.
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OMG we’re ****ed.
 
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