You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

[Handlogten's Heros]

Kemba is a prime drop-off candidate, though. So while the difference isn't likely an entire $50 million shortfall, he's very unlikely to make more in free agency than he would otherwise be paid on his 5-year max (which would probably be a player option anyway).

This... ask IT how much interest teams have in small guards once they fall off. Kemba will be 33-34 in 4 years... it isn’t a site bet he’d even get MLE at that point.

It’s a lot of money to pass up for a guy who likes that area... he’d also have more options in areas traditionally viewed as better areas.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Golden State can start Looney or Bogut because they have 4 other all stars on the court. That's not a fair analysis at all. Boston has multiple dangerous wing options in addition to Kyrie. The Bucks do too.

If Rudy gets hurt, we aren't that screwed as long as we have Favors. That's my point. If we don't have strong center play, our entire system falls apart. So why lose Favors and leave us with no great center option outside of Gobert? Are we so certain that some $4 million center is going to play as well as Favors for 12mpg or if Gobert gets banged up? I'm not so sure...

I'm just not sold on Conley if it means losing all our cap space, Exum, a 1st rounder AND Favors. Just not worth it in my opinion. Our starting unit gets better, but our depth takes a big hit. Conley makes substantially more than Jrue at an older age and he's pretty fragile himself.

You're making some good points, but spending serious money on a backup 5 is a bad plan (Favors isn't signing a longterm extension at $12 million per year), and losing Exum isn't a loss.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Golden State can start Looney or Bogut because they have 4 other all stars on the court. That's not a fair analysis at all. Boston has multiple dangerous wing options in addition to Kyrie. The Bucks do too.

If Rudy gets hurt, we aren't that screwed as long as we have Favors. That's my point. If we don't have strong center play, our entire system falls apart. So why lose Favors and leave us with no great center option outside of Gobert? Are we so certain that some $4 million center is going to play as well as Favors for 12mpg or if Gobert gets banged up? I'm not so sure...

I'm just not sold on Conley if it means losing all our cap space, Exum, a 1st rounder AND Favors. Just not worth it in my opinion. Our starting unit gets better, but our depth takes a big hit. Conley makes substantially more than Jrue at an older age and he's pretty fragile himself.

The general idea is fine in the analysis... center is a place you can find guys cheap and may not be the position you should allocate all your cap resources to if you’d like to be among the best team in the nba.

Exum is a negative contract and is also ded. We’d still have some space still to operate. If we keep Favs and Exum we essentially lose that space anyway.

It’s going to be tough or impossible to address our other needs by paying a guy 17M or 12M if his biggest benefit is just to backup our max player. Both guys have good redundancies and bad redundancies.

So is your plan to run it back? What pg you getting that is better than Ricky?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You're making some good points, but spending serious money on a backup 5 is a bad plan (Favors isn't signing a longterm extension at $12 million per year), and losing Exum isn't a loss.

Not to mention you’d waive Favs and some team with space could just pick him up... then he can’t sogn your deal.

Would you rather have 27M of Favs and Exum or 32M of Conley next year?

 

[LoPo]

You're making some good points, but spending serious money on a backup 5 is a bad plan (Favors isn't signing a longterm extension at $12 million per year), and losing Exum isn't a loss.

I understand. It's a gamble, but I think we have to spend money on guys who fit Utah, our system and our lockerroom. Favors would primarily be a backup C, but he can also play some at PF. If we want to protect our investment on Gobert, we have to make sure he has rest, can take some necessary days off, etc. I just think it's money well spent.

If we got Favors to agree to an extension making $12-13, we would still have close to $20 million to spend in free agency if we let Neto, Rubio, Thabo and Udoh go. If Korver were to retire, we would have enough money ($27+) to offer Brogdon or Russell max money.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Not to mention you’d waive Favs and some team with space could just pick him up... then he can’t sogn your deal.

Would you rather have 27M of Favs and Exum or 32M of Conley next year?

No god-damn brainer. Two birds with one stone*.

*obligatory "Favors is a really nice player, probably a better-than-average starting 5 in the NBA, but still a poor fit here" post

 

[NUMBERICA]

I understand. It's a gamble, but I think we have to spend money on guys who fit Utah, our system and our lockerroom. Favors would primarily be a backup C, but he can also play some at PF. If we want to protect our investment on Gobert, we have to make sure he has rest, can take some necessary days off, etc. I just think it's money well spent.

If we got Favors to agree to an extension making $12-13, we would still have close to $20 million to spend in free agency if we let Neto, Rubio, Thabo and Udoh go. If Korver were to retire, we would have enough money ($27+) to offer Brogdon or Russell max money.

Yeah but Favors isn't signing that. That plan also relies on signing guys which really isn't in the Jazz's control.

 

[LoPo]

Not to mention you’d waive Favs and some team with space could just pick him up... then he can’t sogn your deal.

Favors said he wants to be here. If we extend his contract, of course that has to start with declining his $17+ team option first. It would be a simultaneous move.

As for keeping Favors at $17+, that's a decision I haven't decided on yet. I'm only on board at this moment to declining/extending him to a 3-4 year deal.

 

[Tom Pitt]

Sign Brogdon and Harris. Offense jumps into the top 10 next season.

Brogdon
Mitchell
Ingles
Harris
Gobert

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Favors said he wants to be here. If we extend his contract, of course that has to start with declining his $17+ team option first. It would be a simultaneous move.

As for keeping Favors at $17+, that's a decision I haven't decided on yet. I'm only on board at this moment to declining/extending him to a 3-4 year deal.

The way it works every other team would have to pass on claiming Favs off waivers... we would have to waive him... it isn’t an option it is non guaranteed... so even if he accepts the offer we have to get every other team with cap space to place nice and not claim him... it could happen but only takes one ******* and there will be plenty of team that aren’t using space this year and would like to have a quality player on a one year deal.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Sign Brogdon and Harris. Offense jumps into the top 10 next season.

Brogdon
Mitchell
Ingles
Harris
Gobert

You nailed it... someone send this to DL... Tell him to ignore the fact that we don’t have the cap space to pull this off.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No god-damn brainer. Two birds with one stone*.

*obligatory "Favors is a really nice player, probably a better-than-average starting 5 in the NBA, but still a poor fit here" post

His backup center minutes are great... but there is a reason the lineup data show our team is much better with Jae in for Favs. Imagine swapping Ricky for Conley in that group... it’d be so damn good... now imagine we add someone that can be 10% better than Jae... now what?