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Huh, I heard other players complain about racist remarks in Boston. That must be in a Trump state too.

But awesome job injecting politics into this.
Hard not to inject politics into this when there's obvious steps for reform, such as educating our children on the realities of racism, and our legislature strikes even stuff like that down.
 
Hard not to inject politics into this when there's obvious steps for reform, such as educating our children on the realities of racism, and our legislature strikes even stuff like that down.
Perhaps, but if this stuff is happening all over the country, perhaps it's not a partisan issue.
 
So unfortunate and really disappointing people feel comfortable making such heinous comments. Ugh.

I think it's driven by the homogeneity of Utah. People aren't around diversity enough. Until there is more diversity in the state, **** like this will continue to happen.
IMO the highly diverse metro areas can be just as bad as anywhere else.

We have a problem with people just being plain jerks and not caring for anyone or anybody. Like you said who can comfortably say hurtful (especially racist) things to the face of another person? I don't see it changing however, not with the constant **** we are fed these days through social media, movies, tv shows, music... its poison plain and simple. Common sense and decency is flying out the window more and more everyday.
 
It was those stone drunk Mormons that did this. . .
This seems like a dodge to absolve Mormonism.

It could be that "active" Mormons aren't the ones getting drunk and spewing racism in this particular case (though we don't know for sure, of course). But there's little doubt that the history of Mormon racist attitudes contributes to what many people (whether they're active Mormons, non-active Mormons, non-Mormons or whatnot) feel is acceptable racially within the state. There's decades of attitudes built up there. These change slowly, unfortunately (faster among some than others, of course). It's not something where a switch was just flipped within Mormonism and now the history of these racist feelings and attitudes don't matter anymore. That's not how culture works.

To my mind, and as LDS myself, Mormons should try to be at the forefront of anti-racist efforts in the state, since a significant (not the only, of course) element of Utah racism derives from the church's historical influence, an influence that helped lead people in Utah to think not only that racist attitudes are OK (or at least can be overlooked) but also that this racism is part of "who we are." So to me, it's our problem to a significant extent. We need to own it and do what we can to rid our local community of it.
 
Huh, I heard other players complain about racist remarks in Boston. That must be in a Trump state too.

But awesome job injecting politics into this.
Trump absolutely emboldened and portrayed this behavior in many ways. We’re not side tracking this thread, but yeah, conservatives want to ignore racial issues and pretend they aren’t an issue while pandering to the worst racist wings of their party. The most recent example: the critical race theory thing that most conservatives can’t even accurately define.
 
Hard not to inject politics into this when there's obvious steps for reform, such as educating our children on the realities of racism, and our legislature strikes even stuff like that down.
What about the hateful and disgusting things kids are exposed through everyday by s***** parents letting them have smart phones and free range of the internet? It's starts at home, 100 percent. You think trying to inject kids with ideology at school is going to help when they can just go home and watch some garbage on ticktok after?
 
Trump absolutely emboldened and portrayed this behavior in many ways. We’re not side tracking this thread, but yeah, conservatives want to ignore racial issues and pretend they aren’t an issue while pandering to the worst racist wings of their party. The most recent example: the critical race theory thing that most conservatives can’t even accurately define.
Because people who hate Trump are so loving and tolerant of everyone else also. :rolleyes:
 
Trump absolutely emboldened and portrayed this behavior in many ways.
Agreed, but to just casually dismiss something as "golly gee, it's a Trump state, shocking" is odd, when this behavior happens in other states that didn't vote for the guy. It's a much bigger issue that will take generations to overcome, if it's an issue that can be overcome at all.

And I say this as someone who is hardly a fan of the man.
 
What about the hateful and disgusting things kids are exposed through everyday by s***** parents letting them have smart phones and free range of the internet? It's starts at home, 100 percent. You think trying to inject kids with ideology at school is going to help when they can just go home and watch some garbage on ticktok after?
"What about" is a really lame excuse for inaction.
 
Agreed, but to just casually dismiss something as "golly gee, it's a Trump state, shocking" is odd, when this behavior happens in other states that didn't vote for the guy. It's a much bigger issue that will take generations to overcome, if it's an issue that can be overcome at all.

And I say this as someone who is hardly a fan of the man.
Exactly. The fact that this thread is about to go on a left vs right rollercoaster shows how far people are gone and brainwashed.
 
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