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Whose team is the Jazz?

Who Is The Jazz Floor Leader?

  • Hayward

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • Gobert

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • Favors

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Burke

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Who Cares

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
Hayward is goberts bitch.
Ya'll trippin
 
Stoked said:
Oh sweet, who knows that is all it took. A game winning shot.

Well there you have it folks. You make a game winning shot and you are the leader. Ugh...
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Yep...So if a game winning shot makes you a leader, the undisputed leader of the team is Trey Burke. LOL
 
Cy said:
Wait, are we talking about basketball? Last time I checked, taking the ball and hitting a game winning shot is about the most alpha thing you can do on a basketball court.

You have been prove wrong by Ninja Turtles and video evidence.
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So by your logic not being able to hit three free throws to tie a game with no time left should conversely knock someone off that "alpha" pedestal no?
 
Having the most talent or the ball in your hands for the majority of the time does not make somebody a leader. To me, being a leader is about putting the team & your teammates ahead of yourself, doing whatever it takes to help your team win, supporting your teammates at all times & any cost, helping put them in a position to succeed, making them better (not only with your play, but with your presence/guidance), leading by example, knowing what needs to be said & saying it in a constructive manner, etc. While Hayward clearly has a lot of those qualities, imo Gobert best exemplifies what it means to be a leader out of the players on this roster. Hayward has undoubtedly been the unquestioned leader of this team since Jefferson & Millsap left via FA, but (again imo) Gobert took over that role at the end of the season.

In the end tho, I honestly don't believe that any of the players on this roster are thinking in those terms. The rest of the roster may have looked up to/followed the lead of Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Ingles, & Booker (to varying degrees), but imo one of the biggest factors in the chemistry/cohesion that the team displayed last season was largely due to the fact that the team (as a whole) views themselves as a collective unit rather than a collection of individuals following a specific leader. A team doesn't need one undisputed leader, it can follow the leads of different players in different situations. Imo, this is the main reason that the FO has targeted high-character players & it appears to be paying off.
 
Cy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr149lTvSDo

Hayward has proven his alpha personality.

And yeah, leadership was thrust on him and this was the first year he really took the reigns and proved that he could.

You have been proven wrong through a Ninja Turtles metaphor. Please stahp arguing.
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*reins
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbYyto7h7Q

They won by 0.1 seconds, awesome memory.
 
The team needs a core of 1-2 leaders and loyal followers by other top talent. Saw the ESPN 30 for 30 on Isiah / Lambier's Pistons, and while I hate them they had an amazingly strong culture. Lambier would talk to rookies and newcomers and lay it out "this is the Pistons, this is how we do things here" and there was the flock who all followed the rules so new players knew they needed to blend in.

The late year Stockton/Malone Jazz were sad as the culture had broken down and the legend's followers were absent. Stock talks about this in his book and reflects on it as partially his responsibility. The young kids had no respect.

You need a strong coach, but floor leaders are just as important.

And you don't win championships without a top-flight culture.
 
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