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Current NBA Draft Final Four: Framer vs. Hack

Who would win in a 7 game series?


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Lol.

Ya? What point would that be?


Think about it real hard, then get back to me. You don't want to rush this one. Trust me.

Lolol.

Wow sometimes a simple lol is so appropriate.
 
So I brought up all these points against Hack and everybody ignores it, then Dala brings up worse arguments and people listen? This is why this boards basketball intellect is subpar, it's all a followers mentality. Somebody you trusts says something, and you believe it because yall can't think for yourselves.

Boo Ya!!!!

With that said, Hack's team is better, and having a scorer like Martin as your 5th option isn't that bad, considering a lot of his defensive inequities are neutralized by two good post defenders (see Burke's defensive numbers with Favors/Gobert as evidence).

Martin's effectivity as a scorer (even as a bench option as seen at OKC) in the playoffs has already been called into question. Burke also had the privilege of playing with two superb defenders AND a plethora of formidable defenders on the Jazz. The Jazz were so good last season because they literally have little to none piss-poor defenders on the roster after Kanter left. No one is anywhere close to as bad as Irving or Martin, god help us. If he had 4 plus defenders and Martin, he'd be fine. Unfortunately, his squad has three minus defenders in the starting lineup, and even more on the bench. I'm not sure there's ever been a championship won with three starters being minus defenders.
 
Trey Burke is the savior.


Ya I'm sure a jazzfanz thinks you are brilliant.


Roflolololololol


You know when you've won an argument when the responder doesn't address the points that you made-- and goes down the ad hominem route instead.

I'm surprised Hack isn't starting Jeremy Evans.
 
Boo Ya!!!!



Martin's effectivity as a scorer (even as a bench option as seen at OKC) in the playoffs has already been called into question. Burke also had the privilege of playing with two superb defenders AND a plethora of formidable defenders on the Jazz. The Jazz were so good last season because they literally have little to none piss-poor defenders on the roster after Kanter left. No one is anywhere close to as bad as Irving or Martin, god help us. If he had 4 plus defenders and Martin, he'd be fine. Unfortunately, his squad has three minus defenders in the starting lineup, and even more on the bench. I'm not sure there's ever been a championship won with three starters being minus defenders.

Martin was a poor scorer because he was the focal point. Surely even you can recognize the difference between being a primary option and a 5th option. Also, Irving had a defensive rating of 104 in the playoffs to go along with an offensive rating of 120. Those aren't bad defensive numbers, factor in how Favors and Davis would help more, and I think he would do just fine.
 
Boo Ya!!!!



Martin's effectivity as a scorer (even as a bench option as seen at OKC) in the playoffs has already been called into question. Burke also had the privilege of playing with two superb defenders AND a plethora of formidable defenders on the Jazz. The Jazz were so good last season because they literally have little to none piss-poor defenders on the roster after Kanter left. No one is anywhere close to as bad as Irving or Martin, god help us. If he had 4 plus defenders and Martin, he'd be fine. Unfortunately, his squad has three minus defenders in the starting lineup, and even more on the bench. I'm not sure there's ever been a championship won with three starters being minus defenders.

You know when you've won an argument when the responder doesn't address the points that you made-- and goes down the ad hominem route instead.

I'm surprised Hack isn't starting Jeremy Evans.

I don't address your points because you have no idea what you are talking about. You are just throwing **** at the wall and seeing if it sticks.
 
At least when I get in a argument with Cy, Naos, Howard, etc... I can respect their opinion because they show some sign of being able to see the game.

Talking to Dalamon about basketball is like talking to the Gardner about how to program a computer. There really is no point.
 
Martin was a poor scorer because he was the focal point. Surely even you can recognize the difference between being a primary option and a 5th option. Also, Irving had a defensive rating of 104 in the playoffs to go along with an offensive rating of 120. Those aren't bad defensive numbers, factor in how Favors and Davis would help more, and I think he would do just fine.

Right because Kevin Martin was the focal point of the OKC offense when he shot 38% from the field o.O
 
You know when you've won an argument when the responder doesn't address the points that you made-- and goes down the ad hominem route instead.

I'm surprised Hack isn't starting Jeremy Evans.

I thought that was just how hack argued to begin with?
 
You know when you've won an argument when the responder doesn't address the points that you made-- and goes down the ad hominem route instead.

I'm surprised Hack isn't starting Jeremy Evans.

Or you know you've won when the responder can only try to nitpick tiny points because you've so thoroughly destroyed him that he won't respond to you, or your points.
 
You know when you've won an argument when the responder doesn't address the points that you made-- and goes down the ad hominem route instead.

I'm surprised Hack isn't starting Jeremy Evans.

Or you know you've won when the responder can only try to nitpick tiny points because you've so thoroughly destroyed him that he won't respond to you, or your points.

Good point Howard.
 
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