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Game Thread: BREAK THE STREAK - Warriors @ Jazz - Nov 30 - 7 PM MST

I believe they said the strategy was to take the first good open shot, then if it misses you have another chance. I think that is a pretty common strategy. They wanted to get to Hay but couldn't, Rodney got a clean look and fired. There was a good chance to get that rebound with 3-4 seconds left for another chance. You can disagree, but it is not a bad strategy. Don't think Hood was trying to be the hero, just going with the plan.
Yeah but if you miss the shot and have the good fortune to get an offensive rebound, you're still back to square one. And if you MAKE the shot, the best shooting team in NBA history has time on the clock? I don't know. I'm not a coach, but the downsides seems to greatly outweigh the upsides on throwing up an off-the-dribble three with less than 24 seconds on the clock but more than enough for the opponent to get a pretty good shot of their own off.
 
I was pissed it wasn't Burks. That dude was feelin it from mid-range + is our best bet at drawing a foul.

Another head-scratching end-game situation from the jazz this year. There've already been too many. Feels just like the Sloan days when Crotty or Eisley would somehow jack it up.

Really would have loved just holding the ball and a Burks iso and attack at like 5 seconds with everyone crashing the board.
 
If I had a choice between up 1 with 10 sec left and a Rodney Hood missed 3 I'd take the up 1. Another option would have been to get the ball to Hayward just as got to Rudy. His guy was trailing by 6 ft. He would have had a clear path to the basket around Favor's screen. If Green had dropped down to cover Hayward he could have given the ball up to Favors for an easy dunk. Or swing it over to Burks and let him go at Curry.
You're playing the best team in the NBA (and possibly ever) with the best shooter of all-time, you don't give them a chance to take the last shot, PERIOD. Either you win or lose with the final shot of the game. I still have nightmares of Michael Jordan...don't you?
 
On twitter Locke said that the play was for Hayward but after coming off of picks he wasn't open and the play busted. As a result Hood took the 3.

So the play wasn't for Hood according to Locke. Hood just tried, and failed, to salvage it.
 
You're playing the best team in the NBA (and possibly ever) with the best shooter of all-time, you don't give them a chance to take the last shot, PERIOD. Either you win or lose with the final shot of the game. I still have nightmares of Michael Jordan...don't you?
I agree that ideally you want the last shot. But what we're talking about is a choice between an alley-oop to Burks or Hood's shot. IMO you don't ignore the easy 2, you take what they give you and then play defense. And no, I don't have nightmares about Jordan's shot. I tend to move on.
 
You're playing the best team in the NBA (and possibly ever) with the best shooter of all-time, you don't give them a chance to take the last shot, PERIOD. Either you win or lose with the final shot of the game. I still have nightmares of Michael Jordan...don't you?

U can't think this way. Personally... I hate that coaches go for the final second shot. Just so many more chances not to mention chances of scoring goes up. Then u go down and trust the defense. If this is your foundation as a team. Get the points and then make a play on your strongest side of the court. On defense
 
If Curry gets hurt again, they're done. He's the engine that runs the machine. Jazz should have finished it off last night. They had the moment, but it was too big for them. Someday soon though.

I'm eager to see what the trade deadline brings. If the Jazz can pick up a higher level starting PG with some of the assets at their disposal, they could make some noise heading into the playoffs.

agreed with the second point .. but who ????
 
On twitter Locke said that the play was for Hayward but after coming off of picks he wasn't open and the play busted. As a result Hood took the 3.

So the play wasn't for Hood according to Locke. Hood just tried, and failed, to salvage it.


Final play needs to have two motion options every time.


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On twitter Locke said that the play was for Hayward but after coming off of picks he wasn't open and the play busted. As a result Hood took the 3.

So the play wasn't for Hood according to Locke. Hood just tried, and failed, to salvage it.
That's fine and makes sense but why even inbound to hood? Inbound to Burks and have him look for Hayward, then if Hayward can't get open, Burks (who was hot in the 4th and has been all year) has the ball to take the final shot.

Should have never even touched hoods hands imo
 
I agree that ideally you want the last shot. But what we're talking about is a choice between an alley-oop to Burks or Hood's shot. IMO you don't ignore the easy 2, you take what they give you and then play defense. And no, I don't have nightmares about Jordan's shot. I tend to move on.
Why were the only options an ally oop to Burks or a hood three?
 
U can't think this way. Personally... I hate that coaches go for the final second shot. Just so many more chances not to mention chances of scoring goes up. Then u go down and trust the defense. If this is your foundation as a team. Get the points and then make a play on your strongest side of the court. On defense
I like this strategy too.
 
I like this strategy too.

I don't like this at all in the situation we were in. A miss in our situation all but guarantees the loss with no timeouts. You have to keep the ball out of Currys hands for the win. Go for the last shot and have to make one play instead of two.
 
That's fine and makes sense but why even inbound to hood? Inbound to Burks and have him look for Hayward, then if Hayward can't get open, Burks (who was hot in the 4th and has been all year) has the ball to take the final shot.

Should have never even touched hoods hands imo

Agreed .. should have been your boy Burks driving and drawing a foul or dishing
 
I don't like this at all in the situation we were in. A miss in our situation all but guarantees the loss with no timeouts.

Untrue. We Damn near got the offensive rebound on hoods miss.

Gobert and favors have a decent chance of getting the offensive rebound over whoever the warriors trot out there.

As for the time left/no timeouts.... We could have shot the ball earlier than we did and we would have then had enough time to get the ball up the court and get another good shot off.
 
Untrue. We Damn near got the offensive rebound on hoods miss.

Gobert and favors have a decent chance of getting the offensive rebound over whoever the warriors trot out there.

As for the time left/no timeouts.... We could have shot the ball earlier than we did and we would have then had enough time to get the ball up the court and get another good shot off.

They outrebounded us by ten. And long shots usually make long rebounds.


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They outrebounded us by ten. And long shots usually make long rebounds.


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I still like the strategy. And I still think that rudy and derrick are better rebounders than whatever the warriors trot out there.
Long rebounds are conducive to offensive rebounds btw
 
Why were the only options an ally oop to Burks or a hood three?
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They weren't. I had posted this picture and asked why we didn't look at the alley-oop to Burks. Someone said we didn't want to do that because it would've left too much time on the clock. I was saying I would rather do that than end up with the Hood shot. There were other options. Hood could have given the ball to Hayward who had left his guy way behind and had a pretty clear route to the basket around Gobert and Favors. Or my personal favorite, waited for Burks to come up on the other side and let him go against Curry.
 
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They weren't. I had posted this picture and asked why we didn't look at the alley-oop to Burks. Someone said we didn't want to do that because it would've left too much time on the clock. I was saying I would rather do that than end up with the Hood shot. There were other options. Hood could have given the ball to Hayward who had left his guy way behind and had a pretty clear route to the basket around Gobert and Favors. Or my personal favorite, waited for Burks to come up on the other side and let him go against Curry.
Yep. Either of those are better options.
 
Me too. I was just talking about that game to a friend earlier tonight

 
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