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Wife cheated on me... again

Spoken like someone who has no idea what it actually feels like to go through this process. If neither your wife or you get lawyers, and if both of you decide that you are going to do this in the most loving way possible, recognizing that you can give more to each other because you don't have to give it to a lawyer, you could very well be better off (possibly a lot better off) following that course. The two of you have children together. Trust me, you will be a hell of a lot happier if you don't create an adversarial relationship with this woman who you once loved.

While well intentioned, this is so naive. No, I've never been divorced. Been married almost 13 years and I hope I've never get divorced.

My parents had six divorces between them before I was 18. I've seen it all.

Your advice is terrible. I'm sorry.

Get a lawyer or you will lose. She cheated on you. She broke the deal. Protect yourself.
 
To the OP, I'm so sorry man. Life is already hard enough, and we don't need the people we love and are suppose to love us letting us down in such a big way! It sucks. I wish sometimes humans were inherently more noble and fiercely loyal/faithful to the ones they pledge their love/friendship to, but so often it isn't the case and it hurts. I have contemplated this reality many times, and still don't know how to fully embrace it. I don't know if this helps, but I think of the words of Bob Marley: "Truth is everyone is going to hurt you. You just have to find the ones worth suffering for." I think, though she may have some good qualities as you previously stated, she is not worth suffering for because she's hurting you and she doesn't seem to care enough to stop. And I don't know if this helps you, but whoever she settles down with, she will do the same thing to them odds are.

If it was me, as painful as it would be, I'd get out of the relationship. Have courage. Don't lose your dignity in how you treat her. I mean, handle it with all the grace you can. Good luck brother. I hope things work out well for you.


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She cheated on him 20 times. Why would u advise this?
I say it because of my own experience. My wife cheated on me. It became obvious that the marriage could not be saved. So we talked things through and agreed about how to divide things. Then she said she wanted to have a lawyer look at it. She did. He called me and offered to represent me too. No way was I taking that deal, so I got a lawyer of my own.

My lawyer looked things over, talked with her lawyer, and the told me, this is going to be easy. You'll be divorced within a couple of weeks. Her lawyer advised her to quit communicating with me in person. We started talking through only text and email. Misunderstandings ensued, just like they often do on this site, because communicating only through pixels leaves a lot to be desired. Then either she or her lawyer (I do not know who because I was no longer communicating with my wife since we'd hired these high priced people to come into the middle of things) started drastically modifying the agreement we had previously come to. Then my lawyer pushed back on them, then vice-versa and on and on. Every time anything happened we both got a bill. One day my lawyer received notification that her lawyer was removing himself from the case. I can guess why, but since I can't prove it I won't say. She brought a new lawyer into the picture.

Either she became really sleazy or this new guy did it for her, but either way some terrible things began to happen. I'm not going to post them here. The relevant part is that my relationship with the mother of my children was permanently destroyed. My children's lives would be better if that had not happened. And since my kids are pretty young I'm going to have to be dealing with this situation for years (and obviously beyond because both of us are going to want to be a part of our children's lives for the rest of our lives). So after more than a year of paying lawyers to communicate for us our divorce was finally settled. My deal was worse than the one we had come to together and hers was too. The lawyers got the difference.

But looking back on things, I don't care about the money. I care about the fact that every member of my family went through such a hellish experience. My mom died in the midst of it. The stress was unreal (not just for me, but for my kids and the people who cared about me). I assume, based on much evidence, that it was also unpleasant on my ex's side of things, but maybe she simply became Satan incarnate and she enjoyed the experience. How would I know for sure? We no longer communicate other than rare, brief texts. I have as little to do with her as I can, and my kids get to be in the middle.

Now it might be true that all of this was going to play out in the same way no matter what, but I'm telling you from my heart that I sincerely believe if we had succeeded at leaving the lawyers out of it everyone involved (other than the lawyers)would be better off today. And like I say, since my divorce I've met a few people who figured things out without lawyers. They've told me about their experiences. I'd trade places in a heartbeat.
 
There is no way back to happy relationship after that. If she did it with 3 dudes already it means she is missing something from your relationship. I don't buy "calling beautiful" crap. There is something deeper here and you ain't fixing it. Just move on man. It will hurt but it will be a right choice.
 
Re the lawyer talk, it sounds like you two would benefit from trying mediation first instead of lawyers.

Good luck man. You deserve better than this. Everyone does. Keep your head up and keep being a good dad.
 
That's something I've always had a hard opinion on. Don't leave the house! Don't do it. It is your house just as much as it is her house. Never act like that isn't the case. Never leave the house.

I've seen way too many men paying for their wife and her new man to live in the house he put his life into.

If she can't live under the same roof at this point she can leave. If she gets abusive, at all, call the police. Way before it gets out of control. As soon as she breaks anything, as soon as she gets physical, if she is being verbally abusive, call the police and report her and stick to your guns on domestic violence. So many men are victims of this. You let it go too far or you don't report it and all the sudden you're the abuser. It doesn't matter if you've never even raised your voice to her. You need to make the call first and before anything complicated happens. You're playing from a major disadvantage on domestic violence no matter what, so make the call first and before there is anything at all legitimate she can say about it to make it look like it was you.

This was me. I left after she cheated and she got everything but my personal possessions. Split custody of the kids.

She lost the home and her car. Deadbeat men in and out. I turned things around. Own my cars, a new home and have all but 1 of the kids living with me now. She tells me weekly how much she loves me, how sorry she is and ho angry she gets seeing this "other woman" living her life. Sucks to be her.
 
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THe more and more I read about this, the more clear it becomes that hiring a hitman is the cheapest option.
I must tread very carefully here because if a certain person ever experiences any suspicious harm I will immediately become a person of interest. What I can say is that many people have suggested this solution to me. Whether they are joking or not I can't be sure. I have a friend who went though a similar divorce (unfortunately there are so many people who've experienced this sort of thing). His ex now has terminal cancer. He told me the other day that he wishes he could feel sad about it, but he can't. I know his wife and I know what she's done. I can understand exactly where he's coming from.
 
I've kind of wanted to say that in this thread I'm 100% biased in favor of the male POV. I'm a man and I've mostly heard about divorce from other men. So my sympathy has to do mostly with what men have gone through. I haven't had the same conversations with women. I haven't ever known a woman who had to send the majority of her earned post tax income to support her ex and his new lady, leaving her living at a standard well below what she had before the divorce while the ex enjoys the standard of living he always had, but I see that frequently with men.

I think men should have to pay some child support if they don't have primary custody, but I think the woman should have to show receipts demonstrating that the money is being paid directly for the children's expenses. And I think the standard of living of both the man and the woman should factor into how much is paid. If a guy making over 50K/year lives like someone below the poverty line, something is wrong. He shouldn't have to pay so that while his kids are at mom's they have all the comforts and while they're with him they have to eat ramen noodles and share a sleeping bag on the floor.

I think the father should have the option to offset his child support payments by purchasing things for the kids, dollar for dollar. So that if the guy wants to he can pay ZERO in child support if he can show that he spent the equivalent on things his kids need.
 
This was me. I left after she cheated and she got everything but my personal possessions. Split custody of the kids.

She lost the home and her car. Deadbeat men in and out. I turned things around. Own my cars, a new home and have all but 1 of the kids living with me now. She tells me weekly how much she loves me, how sorry she is and ho angry she gets seeing this "other woman" living her life. Sucks to be her.
Your children are very fortunate to have a dad like you. Best of luck with everything!
 
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