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[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

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It sounds like Crowder has to be traded. They need the cap space and Crowder does not want to play for the Celtics. This actually works well for both Jazz and Boston. Seems like and easy deal.

The question is what can we do the with 23 million trade exception?
 
akirac73 said:
Clips fans weren't angry because they didn't have to endure "The Indecision" and wait 6 hours for a garbage article to be written. CP3 handled his situation with class, straight to the point, no circus acts. I respect that guy...
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He was also traded there and already an all-star. Utah drafted Gordon and gave him a lot of opportunity, even when he wasn't that good. They invested a lot in Hayward only to have him give them the bird once he finally became an all star.
 
We could take on Love for just the exception right? We get Love and take back a Salary they are trying to dump like Shumpert. We send Diaw to Cleveland, Cleveland gets Carmelo and cleans up cap space then NY gets a few picks from us. That is a simple deal that cleans up a ton of cap space for both teams. NY gets some picks and freedom to sign Free agents.
 
Ainge won't do this anyway. He won't give us anything for Hayward and will expect us to pay for Crowder or whoever the same as if it's a completely different trade.

Anybody hoping we get something in return for Hayward is going to be disappointed IMO.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Ainge won't do this anyway. He won't give us anything for Hayward and will expect us to pay for Crowder or whoever the same as if it's a completely different trade.

Anybody hoping we get something in return for Hayward is going to be disappointed IMO.
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The east should conspire to help the west wear down the warriors with a couple teams that may go... unswept. So there's that.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Ainge won't do this anyway. He won't give us anything for Hayward and will expect us to pay for Crowder or whoever the same as if it's a completely different trade.

Anybody hoping we get something in return for Hayward is going to be disappointed IMO.
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He has to send Crowder somewhere, so why wouldn't he send him to us? Does he have some particular animosity towards the Jazz? I'll tell you one thing, we are going to have some particular animosity towards him if he doesn't give us something. He was a pissy-*** whiny bitch when he played for the Celtics. I was a Celtics fan then and saw all of his tirades. They eventually traded him though I thought it was a bad deal for the Celtics. He was a very good player, borderline All-Star -- don't think he ever made the All-Star team though I could be wrong -- yes, he did make it once.
 
This is on Hayward though. If he wants to be a vindictive little kid then he will not agree to this. Is Hayward that petty and angry about his time with the Jazz. The team that made him an all-star, that created an offense for him, the team that believed he could be a number 1 option and let him improve at that for 3 years until he was.

Celtics can easily just trade Crowder to one of the teams with room and get some asset back.
 
Ron Mexico said:
We could take on Love for just the exception right? We get Love and take back a Salary they are trying to dump like Shumpert. We send Diaw to Cleveland, Cleveland gets Carmelo and cleans up cap space then NY gets a few picks from us. That is a simple deal that cleans up a ton of cap space for both teams. NY gets some picks and freedom to sign Free agents.
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Yeah we could take Love back. But I'm not sure we should. He's 28 with back problems. How far does Rudy + Love take us? It might be better to hold the asset. A better oppotunity is bound to present itself. We've seen George, Butler and CP3 traded in the last month alone. Things are always changing.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
He has to send Crowder somewhere, so why wouldn't he send him to us? Does he have some particular animosity towards the Jazz? I'll tell you one thing, we are going to have some particular animosity towards him if he doesn't give us something. He was a pissy-*** whiny bitch when he played for the Celtics. I was a Celtics fan then and saw all of his tirades. They eventually traded him though I thought it was a bad deal for the Celtics. He was a very good player, borderline All-Star -- don't think he ever made the All-Star team though I could be wrong -- yes, he did make it once.
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He doesn't have to send Crowder somewhere for free. He has value. Like I said, Ainge will expect compensation for him IMO, rather than counting Hayward as compensation.

I suppose it may be possible that Ainge decides to do us a Favor. Won't be holding my breath, though.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Ainge won't do this anyway. He won't give us anything for Hayward and will expect us to pay for Crowder or whoever the same as if it's a completely different trade.

Anybody hoping we get something in return for Hayward is going to be disappointed IMO.
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There's a different angle in here, though. This is the absolute worst timing for Ainge's son to be running for congress in Utah. This could absolutely sink any political aspirations he has. If Hayward feels guilty (or wants to get larger % increases each year) then they can push for this. Maybe there are other takers for cap space dumps for Boston contracts, maybe not. Ainge has no motivation to give away someone for nothing, unless he absolutely can't clear space. But, if there are significant signs of serious political blowback where this Hayward issue could put his candidacy in jeopardy, the least his dad go do is throw his son a bone and Crowder + TPE goes a long way in smoothing out this narrative before next month's vote. It's already (prior to the decision) effected him because he's going out there feigning wanting Hayward to stay and tweeting Stayward crap.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
He doesn't have to send Crowder somewhere for free. He has value. Like I said, Ainge will expect compensation for him IMO, rather than counting Hayward as compensation.

I suppose it may be possible that Ainge decides to do us a Favor. Won't be holding my breath, though.
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He might actually be worried about the PR for GH and he might have some concern for his sons campaign.


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Mongoose said:
He might actually be worried about the PR for GH and he might have some concern for his sons campaign.


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This is legit and really needs to be pushed.
 
Let me spit the truth here... we talked with them sure... but we said these mother ****ers been screwing with us let's turn it up. He woj and tony why don't you let the general public know that Hayward could actually help us out here... if he doesn't he looks more douchey if he does we get some help.

It won't work... I think... but we can make them look even worse.
 
Is there any reason, other than ****ing the jazz over, that Hayward wouldn't do this?

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