I believe Boston has a good of a chance as anyone not named Golden State.
And Portland's problems are that their two best players are redundant and their role players are inconsistent and not really 2-way players.
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I believe Boston has a good of a chance as anyone not named Golden State.
And Portland's problems are that their two best players are redundant and their role players are inconsistent and not really 2-way players.
Nerlen got nerleneded because he is a center (most stacked NBA position w/ least need for depth) who has attitude issues.
Hood is a 3pt shooter at the most coveted position that needs the most depth. I'd be surprised if he doesnt get 20,000,000 (unless he just has a **** year w/ more injuries).
Can't I believe both? I wanted him back, but never believed he was a great player, just a good player in a system built for him.
BTW, AK never had a system built for him, nor an offense designed to get him the ball where he was most effective. He was not the center of the Jazz world for 7 seasons.
Its fun to wonder what might have been if he had been given the Hayward treatment.
As for my all-time Jazz rankings, AK is far ahead of GH.
The only real debate is how much better than Hayward was Matt Harpring.
AK wasn't a hard worker and building an offense around his bizarre skill-set wouldn't have made sense, especially since he was never that good or efficient of a scorer.
framer
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Aaron Affalo has a better 3 point percentage and just signed for the minimum. Who is going to drop the 20 million dollar contract for an RFA? Money is drying up and teams are finding that capspace is pretty valuable. . .
AK was a better defender. Boozer didn't try much on defense, it's the reason I disliked him. But he was much better option and player than AK.
Tak
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Really? A lazy one sided player, not that much healthy than AK, an obvious result of the system he was playing in (benched in Chicago), much better player than AK?
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I think AK could've been Draymond Green before Draymond was Draymond (but with more blocks), given the right circumstances that is, not getting injured and having the right shooters around him to allow AK best use his abilities. Which was passing, defense and doing all the little things and then scoring (in that order) heck for Draymond to be Draymond it took a near perfect storm of teammates, opportunity, coaching change that allowed the right system and opportunity and of course health.
I will admit though I am bias AK was and is one of my favorite players not named Stockton&Malone.
It's WWAAAAYY too early but potentially DM has an opportunity to move into this territory like Rudy who is well on his way there.
I will admit though I am bias AK was and is one of my favorite players not named Stockton&Malone.
It's WWAAAAYY too early but potentially DM has an opportunity to move into this territory like Rudy who is well on his way there.
I can't believe I made it through this entire thread. Some of the dumbest **** ever. Right now I want to put [MENTION=698]JimLes[/MENTION], [MENTION=229]mellow[/MENTION], [MENTION=441]framer[/MENTION], [MENTION=253]Saint Cy of JFC[/MENTION] all in a room together and see which one pinches the hardest or pulls out the most hair of another occupant.
Yep that's how bad AK was. How many playoff series did AK help us win? 0. Boozer had some big games and helped us win series. Ak laid an egg every playoffs and cried about it after.Really? A lazy one sided player, not that much healthy than AK, an obvious result of the system he was playing in (benched in Chicago), much better player than AK?
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Tak
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Yeah, I remember Boozer's stellar no shows against LA every-freaking-season. But hey, he did well against Houston a couple of times I guess that's something. Besides, it's really hard to lay an egg when you aren't even the 3rd. option in the team.
Tak
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Boozer was our best player when we lucked out and played the 8th seed to reach the conference finals, just to be leveled 4-1.
Tell me something, if Booz was so good, why wasn't he capable of replicate his success in another venue? If AK was so bad, why was he Eurobasket 2007 champion and MVP?
The playoff series against the Golden State Warriors ("We Believe" team) in 2007.....you have short memory bro.
Lol, that was weaker competition that is why ak did okay there. He has 0 success in the NBA when it mattered. Boozer played his prime years here. He did go downhill with Chicago but still played okay at times with them including the playoffs.
But yes even if Jazz got lucky to meet an 8 see boozer still carried a team to win multiple playoffs series including upsetting Houston. The same series ak cried after in the press conference.
I know AK fans loved him and will defend him to the end but AK was definitely worse than Hayward and boozer.
AK at his best was a role player on a decent team or the best player on a crappy team.
Both Hayward and boozer lead there teams to playoff series wins.
You forgot a small detail, it was mainly Joe Johnson that lead the team to win the playoff series against the Clippers.
Also AK left Utah at about the same age as boozer. Boozer had more success post Jazz than AK did. So that argument hurts AK more than boozer. Maybe ak only had minor success because of Utah's system.
Boozer's worst playoffs were better than aks best.
Boozer's worst playoffs were better than aks best.
Hayward did more for the Jazz than JJ did.
Jack Strop
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Not in the Clippers' series. It was JJ who saved Utah's butt and carried the team in the 4th quarter.
Hayward is a very good player for 43 minutes. But his sphincter often tightens in the last 5. I'm not saying this is always the case: he's hit some game winners. But now he's going to a situation where he can put up his numbers and then have IT take over down the stretch. It fits him perfectly.