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Stoked said:
For me one of the biggest let downs is the difference between comics Carl and show Carl. Comics Carl means business and is a killer. Also they could have had such a killer lineup.

Comics Andrea, Shane, Merle, Comics Carl, Michonne... They'd have just beaten Negan to death the first time they met.
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But they didn't in the actual comics right? I mean I didn't read them that far in but I thought Negan was every bit the badass in the comics that they are making him out to be in the show right? And against that dream team lineup he still pounded them pretty good didn't he?
 
LogGrad98 said:
But they didn't in the actual comics right? I mean I didn't read them that far in but I thought Negan was every bit the badass in the comics that they are making him out to be in the show right? And against that dream team lineup he still pounded them pretty good didn't he?
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Shane never meets Negan, Melrs doesn't exist, Carl kills like 16 of his people and almost Negan, Andrea is a scarred sharp shooter and Negan spends a lot less time in front of this group doing the peacock thing. Because if he does they'll kill him.
 
Man this just keeps getting worse. That episode just flat out sucked. What the hell is going on? Crappy everything, writing, editing, cinematography, you name it they wrecked it. The only good thing was Morgan going all bad *** on everyone for a bit. Ugh. When will they end all this, does anyone have a guess? Just crap at this point.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Man this just keeps getting worse. That episode just flat out sucked. What the hell is going on? Crappy everything, writing, editing, cinematography, you name it they wrecked it. The only good thing was Morgan going all bad *** on everyone for a bit. Ugh. When will they end all this, does anyone have a guess? Just crap at this point.
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I agree the plot is awful so far. They are taking a really long time to get into this fight. They are trying to be too creative with revealing what is happening and it makes it hard to care and hard to know what is actually going on. They seem like this episode was trying to delve into everyone's morality and push them, but it was not interesting.

The only part I liked as well is Morgan saying he doesnt die and then later standing up when he should be dead and going on a rampage. Then it ended with some silly 3 way conflict of morality with the prisoners. The King guys speeches are very boring and dumb, I just zone out.

I really hope they announce that the next season is the end so they can have some real direction and get moving quicker. I hate when they drag out scenes over a really long time and try to be creative with it. This is a zombie apocalypse show, stick to that.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I agree the plot is awful so far. They are taking a really long time to get into this fight. They are trying to be too creative with revealing what is happening and it makes it hard to care and hard to know what is actually going on. They seem like this episode was trying to delve into everyone's morality and push them, but it was not interesting.

The only part I liked as well is Morgan saying he doesnt die and then later standing up when he should be dead and going on a rampage. Then it ended with some silly 3 way conflict of morality with the prisoners. The King guys speeches are very boring and dumb, I just zone out.

I really hope they announce that the next season is the end so they can have some real direction and get moving quicker. I hate when they drag out scenes over a really long time and try to be creative with it. This is a zombie apocalypse show, stick to that.
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Yeah this would be way better done with more grit and less artsy fartsy ****. Straightforward story-telling would work best with this topic IMO.
 
I agree with what most are saying. TWD seems to run out it's course and they just dragging it because there is devote fan base who still are interested in watching. They just need to end it after this season, Eugene or some crazy scientist outside of USA finds the cure and visits all the gang in Georgia like a Savior - hallelujah, done deal. Lets rebuild and move on.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
TWD needs to get dumber. Bigger explosions, more zombies, more stuff that makes no sense, less dialogue. The shows #1 flaw is that it's way too serious.

And kill Negan ASAP. I'm so tired of his dialogue. "You got your ****ting pants on cuz you're about to **** your pants"? I know I just said I wanted the show to be less serious, but it has to actually be funny when it's funny.

are you srs?
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the show has flaws. but the reason for tha tline is negan uses it in the comic books. so it is for those who know the comic books. i think he siad that really often in the comics. been a while since i read out all war. but yeah it is a tribute/throwback or plain staying true to comics
 
LogGrad98 said:
But they didn't in the actual comics right? I mean I didn't read them that far in but I thought Negan was every bit the badass in the comics that they are making him out to be in the show right? And against that dream team lineup he still pounded them pretty good didn't he?
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No he didn't meet that line up.

Merle doesn't exist, Shane is already dead. Carl handled himself really well. In the comics he hides away in a truck like he did in the show. But in the comics he kills like a dozen guys with a rifle instead of 1 dude with a pistol.

I'd have loved to see how a Shane led group with people like previous Carol, Comics Carl and Merle backing him up would have handled this.
 
Holy cow, I started this thread? I haven't watched the Walking Dead since 2010, which is also crazy to me it started that long ago. On a totally unrelated note, my GFs uncle is in Fear of the Walking Dead.
 
Stoked said:
No he didn't meet that line up.

Merle doesn't exist, Shane is already dead. Carl handled himself really well. In the comics he hides away in a truck like he did in the show. But in the comics he kills like a dozen guys with a rifle instead of 1 dude with a pistol.

I'd have loved to see how a Shane led group with people like previous Carol, Comics Carl and Merle backing him up would have handled this.
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That would be interesting to change up the characters and see where it goes. I think their insistence on hitting specific points in the comics tends to derail the story a bit. It often seems forced or dumb then I check it out and the reason is "it was that way in the comics". I wish they had gone the GoT route and just told the story without worrying so much about hitting points from the comics. I mean, the story is already different enough, with new characters and characters that are no where near their comic counterparts, that when they do go back to the canon it kind of derails things.

But either way this season is a hot mess. It is on the verge of dumpster fire and, even though I thought I was in this one for the long haul, it may mean I get to go to bed earlier on Sundays for the next few weeks if the quality doesn't pick up at least a little.
 
Archie Moses said:
I don't know but his name is Dayton Callie. I think he's on Sons of Anarchy and a bunch of other things too.
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Oh cool, so he played old, racist, abusive ranch owner Jeremiah Otto. Amazing acting I must say.

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Almost to the mid-season finale I guess. Tired of the romulans or garbage-pail kids or whatever and their stupid verbiage. It has been 3 years tops since this all went to hell, how the hell did they evolve a new language? Either way I actually liked the arc with Eugene because it actually feels like something a real person would do. Far better than people who are sworn to kill each other standing around in the open shooting the **** with nary a bullet fired except to kill a bunch of windows.

Oh and now, after barrage after barrage and hailstorm upon hailstorm of bullets, NOW that they had to shoot 50 or 60 zombies they are all of a sudden worried about ammo? I love when you count well over 100 shots from a 20 round clip, but as soon as they need a new plot point suddenly bullets are scarce. Ugh.

And am I the only one tired of the way Negan talks. Did he talk like this before all this? Did you walk into his oil-change place or whatever and get him sauntering over to you, speaking in some forced drawl while licking his face 50 times per sentence? No wonder he hungered for power. Act that like among real people and there is no way he had anything even remotely like respect from anyone.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Almost to the mid-season finale I guess. Tired of the romulans or garbage-pail kids or whatever and their stupid verbiage. It has been 3 years tops since this all went to hell, how the hell did they evolve a new language? Either way I actually liked the arc with Eugene because it actually feels like something a real person would do. Far better than people who are sworn to kill each other standing around in the open shooting the **** with nary a bullet fired except to kill a bunch of windows.

Oh and now, after barrage after barrage and hailstorm upon hailstorm of bullets, NOW that they had to shoot 50 or 60 zombies they are all of a sudden worried about ammo? I love when you count well over 100 shots from a 20 round clip, but as soon as they need a new plot point suddenly bullets are scarce. Ugh.

And am I the only one tired of the way Negan talks. Did he talk like this before all this? Did you walk into his oil-change place or whatever and get him sauntering over to you, speaking in some forced drawl while licking his face 50 times per sentence? No wonder he hungered for power. Act that like among real people and there is no way he had anything even remotely like respect from anyone.
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Lol

Oh man, this show is so stupid now.

I think its been over three years though right? Carl has grown up quite a bit, but I guess that wouldn't stop them from ignoring things like that. Somehow little *** kicker has grown up some , but Maggie has been pregnant forever and still doesnt show.

None of this makes sense anymore. Is there no one there to call out these moronic producers? I cant figure out why anyone does anything they do. Why did Rick go seek the help of the trash people by himself? Why did Daryl ram that bus into the building instead of waiting for help? Why did Maggie, Jesus, and the others just sit there in their cars in front of that tree and wait til the Saviors came up to them? Why did the Saviors just let him them go? Where the hell do all these saviors come from. 50 get killed, and there are 50 more to replace them, but we never see all of them. Uggh. Its probably why Carl got killed off. He probably had enough of the stupid plot lines and wanted to quit.

Ya, and Negan is beyond annoying. Him still being a live is beyond stupid too. For one, he om2ly weighs 180lbs and it shows in the series. He carries a bat instead of a gun. I dont see how he just hasnt got his butt kicked yet or killed off. Rick was ontop of him beating his face in with a bat and somehow gets shoved off. He always stands out right in the open where he could easily be shot.

Really, I could complain about every scene in the show. No logic whatsoever. Just frustrating nonsense.
 
^The show is basically just a money machine for AMC. They put as little $$$ into it as possible. Even though the ratings are slipping a lot, they are still pretty good numbers.
 
Anyway, I think killing Carl way earlier than in comics may be pointing at the shows premature end. I read that Andrew Lincoln is getting tired of spending his time away from family every summer in Georgia so I would not be surprised that he is thinking about calling it quit as well. They already announced that Morgan will be moved to Fear the Walking Dead... so who knows what the heck are they thinking. Maybe they will kill off The Walking Dead and will keep running Fear?
 
MVP said:
Anyway, I think killing Carl way earlier than in comics may be pointing at the shows premature end. I read that Andrew Lincoln is getting tired of spending his time away from family every summer in Georgia so I would not be surprised that he is thinking about calling it quit as well. They already announced that Morgan will be moved to Fear the Walking Dead... so who knows what the heck are they thinking. Maybe they will kill off The Walking Dead and will keep running Fear?
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morgan is not being moved to fear the walking dead. it isnt permanent. it is a crossover, because fear has not been doing well.

not enouugh TWD people watch FTWD, so this is a move to get people who are racist and dont watch fear, because of it latin american flavor, to watch it for morgan
 
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