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Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21

stitches said:
I mean... if you have good enough foresight to predict 30-8 finish of the season... and then that we will pick a 23 year old undersized 2 guard with defensive issues and streaky shot... I liked this draft a lot. We just happened to draft a player I had ranked a full round later than where we got him.
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That's the kick in the pants. I thought the draft was pretty flat (I liked where we were sitting) for about 30 slots and we ended up reaching on a coked up jock.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't see how he'll ever play more than 20 MPG here or any contender for that matter. He's known as a poor defender, he's not a PG, he's not a switchable defender. He's a hustler that will hopefully make the right plays most of the time, mostly against bench players.
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Interesting about him not being a pg. when I put “Grayson Allen highlights” into the you tube search iirc the second video that came up was titled “Grayson Allen the most explosive point guard in the country”
Almost 5 assists per game ain’t bad in college imo.

Another thing I noticed in his highlight videos is that his team was almost always ranked #1 in the country (it shows the ranking on the game score). He also played for a decent college coach.
 
fishonjazz said:
Interesting about him not being a pg. when I put “Grayson Allen highlights” into the you tube search iirc the second video that came up was titled “Grayson Allen the most explosive point guard in the country”
Almost 5 assists per game ain’t bad in college imo.

Another thing I noticed in his highlight videos is that his team was almost always ranked #1 in the country (it shows the ranking on the game score). He also played for a decent college coach.
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If he has the accumen to replace Ricky Rubio, I'll be happy to eat crow about it.

I just don't see that happening, and I don't love Rubio either.
 
I like that he didn’t miss any games last year and played 36 minutes per game too.
 
Reading this thread is hilarious. After all the mistakes that have been made by people on this board about the draft in the past and how most everyone will agree that the draft is pretty much a crap shoot that people act like a bunch of whining bitches thinking they know more than the Jazz staff. I'm not a close follower of college ball but Jay Bilas did say tonight that Allen is the best shooter, or maybe it was one of the best shooters, in the draft, something the Jazz need. We need to give the kid a chance. Time will tell.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If fish is happy so am I... okay still not happy but feel 3% better.
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Fish is only worth 3%?
The Thriller said:
Ok. I’m glad you feel that way. But there’s hardly a consensus on this board that Allen was the BPA. Okobo easily could’ve been and he fit a need.

When’s Allen going to play? We have a logjam at the 3. He doesn’t have PG skills to backup Rubio. So is he going to spot donovon 5 mins per game? Is that a wise pick?

Plus, who’s he going to defend?

His age is also a concern. How much of a ceiling does he have?

Was he one of the BPA at 21? Maybe. Was he the best prospect? Hell no, and I don’t think it’s even close to being debatable
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Thank god he’s not a 3. lol
The Thriller said:
Okobo might have over Rubio. In time? Probably. Will Allen ever be a starter in this league? What’s his position? Who’s he defending?
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When Rubio is 35? The jazz aren’t the only team that passed on him. He went 31, almost second round.
NUMBERICA said:
I don't see how he'll ever play more than 20 MPG here or any contender for that matter. He's known as a poor defender, he's not a PG, he's not a switchable defender. He's a hustler that will hopefully make the right plays most of the time, mostly against bench players.
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NUMBERICA said:
I would like a "safe" pick that fills any kind of need. I don't think that's at all unreasonable.
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When fans think they know better then their favorite team. Classic.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Reading this thread is hilarious. After all the mistakes that have been made by people on this board about the draft in the past and how most everyone will agree that the draft is pretty much a crap shoot that people act like a bunch of whining bitches thinking they know more than the Jazz staff. I'm not a close follower of college ball but Jay Bilas did say tonight that Allen is the best shooter, or maybe it was one of the best shooters, in the draft, something the Jazz need. We need to give the kid a chance. Time will tell.
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Numberica says he'll work for $10 an hour, and will produce better results than the millions poured into scouting.
 
Alright.

I did no research on the draft for two years and it was some of the best time not-wasted in that span of time.

I didn't like the Mitchell pick when I got the 3-minute synopsis. But I knew I didn't really know anything, so I quickly chilled.

I also hated the Lyles pick (and knee a lot more) and was dead-right about him. However, by some miracle ended up working out.

I hate this pick more than I hated the Lyles pick and I could go on forever about precisely why (Lyles at least fit a need, his "potential" was enough that even through a **** year carried value to the point he could still be traded for value).

I guess I'll just wave my white flag and my Jazz flag because I have no choice and be really bummed how much time I spent cramming the info that I did.

Here's to hoping for a hell of a sixth man for 7 years or something.

I really didn't and don't have time for this, so maybe this is the slap in the face that I needed. God damn the Grizzlies dangling that pick and the Kawhi drama.

Thanks for bearing with me, I really needed to vent. Go Jazz.
 
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