The Thriller
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How are republicans doing in all of these special elections?
Trump and Putin in Helsinki
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How are republicans doing in all of these special elections?
♪alt13
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No
Shrink DC to inude only Federal property, return residential areas to Maryland and Virginia if they want federal representation.
I'm not sure they want statehood.
Something I recently learned - DC residents get in-state tuition at all public colleges and universities (in any state). Neither here nor there, but that's kind of a nice perk.
Something I recently learned - DC residents get in-state tuition at all public colleges and universities (in any state). Neither here nor there, but that's kind of a nice perk.
Red
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Is that really the best you can do? Reference a conspiracy theory that even Fox News had to publically distance itself from? Even Hannity eventually shut his mouth about it. Trump fanboys coming back with bonkers conspiracy theories. Pizzagate. Seth Rich. Well, it's true the leader of this cult is a huge fan of conspiracy theories, but some of us are actually rational.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...-conspiracy-theory-explained-fox-news-hannity
Red
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Just consider what we know, and the events of this week.
--The New York Times reports that Trump was briefed, at least 4 top intelligence chiefs present, on the actions Putin personally ordered to interfer in the 2016 election, in order to help Trump get elected. Trump is reported to have "grudgingly" accepted the facts of that interference.
--Despite that fact, over next 18 months, on repeated occasions, Trump has cast doubt on whether the Russians interfered in the election, and he has called the investigation into that interference, and more times then any of us can count at this point, "a witch hunt". Again, having been presented with the truth, in detail, prior to his inauguration. Yet he has repeatedly called the facts and the investigation into doubt.
--On the world stage, on foreign soil, with the man he was told ordered an attack on American democracy standing to his side, at the conclusion of a week spent bashing our allies of the last 70 years, and treating leaders of those allies as if they were our enemies, calling the European Union our "foe", the president chooses to betray his country, backs Putin's denials over his own intelligence agencies, again, on foreign soil mind you, again refers to the investigation into the attack on our democracy, by the man standing next to him, as a witch hunt. Bringing shame on himself and his office, providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
--After a couple of days spent providing the dumbest and most asinine walk back of his Helsinki comments many of us could ever imagine, his White House announces that the man who attacked our democracy has been invited to Washington. So, should we expect to see our enemy speak before a joint session of Congress? We are in the twilight zone at this point. Donald Trump is colluding with our chief adversary right in front of our eyes. George Will, our leading conservative advocate, sucessor to William Buckley, has, in his latest Washington Post column, himself called out Trump for committing collusion right now. We are in the twilight zone at this point.
--He's doubling down on his support of the man who ordered an attack on our democracy, an attack on our sovereignty. He is doubling down now, the asinine walk back is over, and he is back providing aid and comfort to the nation that attacked us. I don't expect Trump cult members to recognize this. They are the sheep. They are the fools. They are the Americans supporting a president who is betraying their nation. Shame on him. Shame on them...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/poli...putin-visit-washington-white-house/index.html
George Will: This sad, embarrassing wreck of a man:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6de8ea-89e8-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html
--The New York Times reports that Trump was briefed, at least 4 top intelligence chiefs present, on the actions Putin personally ordered to interfer in the 2016 election, in order to help Trump get elected. Trump is reported to have "grudgingly" accepted the facts of that interference.
--Despite that fact, over next 18 months, on repeated occasions, Trump has cast doubt on whether the Russians interfered in the election, and he has called the investigation into that interference, and more times then any of us can count at this point, "a witch hunt". Again, having been presented with the truth, in detail, prior to his inauguration. Yet he has repeatedly called the facts and the investigation into doubt.
--On the world stage, on foreign soil, with the man he was told ordered an attack on American democracy standing to his side, at the conclusion of a week spent bashing our allies of the last 70 years, and treating leaders of those allies as if they were our enemies, calling the European Union our "foe", the president chooses to betray his country, backs Putin's denials over his own intelligence agencies, again, on foreign soil mind you, again refers to the investigation into the attack on our democracy, by the man standing next to him, as a witch hunt. Bringing shame on himself and his office, providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
--After a couple of days spent providing the dumbest and most asinine walk back of his Helsinki comments many of us could ever imagine, his White House announces that the man who attacked our democracy has been invited to Washington. So, should we expect to see our enemy speak before a joint session of Congress? We are in the twilight zone at this point. Donald Trump is colluding with our chief adversary right in front of our eyes. George Will, our leading conservative advocate, sucessor to William Buckley, has, in his latest Washington Post column, himself called out Trump for committing collusion right now. We are in the twilight zone at this point.
--He's doubling down on his support of the man who ordered an attack on our democracy, an attack on our sovereignty. He is doubling down now, the asinine walk back is over, and he is back providing aid and comfort to the nation that attacked us. I don't expect Trump cult members to recognize this. They are the sheep. They are the fools. They are the Americans supporting a president who is betraying their nation. Shame on him. Shame on them...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/poli...putin-visit-washington-white-house/index.html
George Will: This sad, embarrassing wreck of a man:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6de8ea-89e8-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html
The Thriller
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Oh I misunderstood the parameters of this argument. I thought we were arguing about what benefits th DNC. Making DC a state would give democrats another consistent blue state. Seeing how trump has treated PR, that would be another blue state.
♪alt13
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For sure but DC still shouldn't be a state. Long Island and PR seem more reasonable to me
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Here is an interesting look at legality in terms of the Clinton emails. Seems they fall largely in a gray area. At the very least it looks shady, and "might" have been illegal depending on what may or may not have been deleted. Either way, we know that politicians get away with **** normal people would get reamed for all the time, so it isn't a surprise this went nowhere with the full force of the democratic political machine doing all it could to cover anything up, if there was ever anything there to cover up in the first place. To think that Nixon was really the only "crooked" politician is insanely naive. He was just the one not on top of things enough, or without enough backing from the right people, to not get fully exposed.
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsall...heck-hillary-clinton-those-emails-and-the-law
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Bold part tells me you haven't awoken to the media facade yet. Those that have eyes to see let them see. No, can't top murder. Awaken from the loop. You're in charge of your life and not these world actors, arguing false dichotomies isn't in my interest. Cheers!!! Here's to you and helping others. Turn the TV off is great advice I'd offer to anyone. I watch sports, and that's about it. TV is all one illusion, no matter if your watching Al jazeera or RT or Fox News or CNN. I've seen same tactics used against Ron Paul no matter what channel he was on(Even FOX NEWS!! especially so) (they all get the same briefings and orders) but that's maybe not acceptable for you to know at this time so do what thy wilt. Tons of shills in here, interesting. Surprising? Hex no.
This is so ****ing embarrassing. Especially since it is becoming so popular for people to buy into this line of thinking.
No such thing as reality to some people. There are the like 20% of us being lied to, the 5% who have figured out the lie and the 75% who would have to be in on all these lies. Makes sense.
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There's videos of Clinton aides texting questions to the Reporter who is asking the questions. I don't even want to take the 1 minute to go find it. Y'all don't care.
D
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Here ya go:
My last post wasting my time with y'alls delusion
My last post wasting my time with y'alls delusion
That one I find believable, especially if it's CNN/broadcast media. They will play nice with any President who wants to use them, just to get "access".
Most of the rest of your media rant is stupidity, based on crazy conspiracies.
No, you're wrong. People who listen, read, study, and watch media to learn more about subjects are dumb. People who just stick with their gut feeling about subjects they know nothing about are the real smart people. They know what's really happening.
You wouldn't understand though, you're just book smart not street smart.
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Most Americans do not give a single **** about Russia. Campaign on health care, affordable housing, and better public education. This will do way ****ing more than Rachel Maddow preaching to her viewers about the optics of Russiagate
Chock up rare144 as another person who doesn't understand the word media and what that entails.
Also chock him up as another person that doesn't understand the difference between cable news opinion sections and reporting news.
Also chock him up as another person that doesn't understand the difference between cable news opinion sections and reporting news.
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I have literally zero faith in the Democrats winning in 2020. The only way they win is if Bernie Sanders secures the nomination, and the whole party gets behind this sort of rhetoric.