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Let’s not overrate team chemistry. It’s a job. You’re getting paid millions of dollars - hit an open jump shot on a consistent basis man-bun.

Looks like Rubio is gone this off season - I just wish we could have gotten something back for him. Or he’s got to be ok with limited playing time and sacrificing for the team. Like Derrick Favors.

It’s time to hand over the keys to the backcourt to DM and Exum and see what happens.
 
Team chemistry is nice but it isn't vital if the team doesn't have the talent to contend and that's the case right now with the Jazz.

In saying that though I'm sympathetic towards Rubio and NBA players in general as having your name dragged through the mud over the last week or so in the media (and this year was particularly bad for it) around all of the trade rumours sucks and it's a ****** part of the business, especially if the player is in a situation that they're happy in like Rubio is.
 
A lot of people are underrating team chemistry ITT though. A team like the Sixers should have enough talent to really make some noise in the playoffs but if they underperform you better believe one of the overarching narratives will be that their team chemistry sucked instead of things like poor coaching, depth, etc. Warriors earlier in the year had real chemistry concerns when KD and Dray had their spat and the Warriors were kinda meh for a bit, despite having all the talent in the world.

Once you have the talent team chemistry is very important as managing egos/making sure everyone is getting their share while also getting guys to be willing to sacrifice is an important apsect of any championship team. It's just not that important if you don't have the talent to get to a championship in the first place.
 
I understand all the comments that can be written, but man we are serious and do self-criticism just like someone said in another post, it seems that Ricky is to blame until they have reinforced Eastern teams and that Gobert does not go to the game of the stars etc ... and if we put ourselves up to the future third world war it is also to ricky.
is nothing consistent throwing a basket and we all know. But from that to read atrocities that I have read there is a world.
And yet "as I put a day in another post" .. there is never a single comment of tangerines that throws crowder to basket, or that joe is deleted from the game more than once, or that Rudy he escapes too many balls from his hands and that he is a limited pivot in attack or even that Donovan's shot selection is often terrifying ..
NOTHING..
Only ricky, ricky and more ricky
Has given you to think that maybe this team is not contender because it is not as good as you think?.
and to finish, put a boy like Dante who has played 4 decent matches in 3 years as if he were the new messiah.
Long live the self-criticism
 
I think Ricky will be back next season, but as back up, I think Dante will be a starter by playoffs, if healthy.
Obviously Memphis wasn't keen on him at all
Dante should play as a starter when is healthy due to the confidence Utah has on him. Other thing is that Dante as a starter works,i don't think so, i don't think he is the player most of you think he is or will be and i'm not a hater. But at this time i don't know what Dante is... PG? Is a general on the floor or a chicken with the head off ? A 2? With Donovan this has no sense. A 3? Without shooting?... but sorry this is for a different thread. And of course i know that Ricky has lacks, sometimes more sometimes less and it' s clear you think you deserve a much better PG, i don't think it will be Dante
 
It is nice to have chemistry but in the end it is the Front office's job to make the roster better. Ricky is entitled to his feelings but if he were playing better he would not have been part of the trade package. He should look at it as a compliment, someone was willing to trade their star for him. Ricky should know this is how the NBA works.

Pretty much this. It's the NBA.

If he had the great second half of the season and doesn't want to sign with us should the front office start bashing him for lack of loyalty and start talking about chemistry and how he is important to the team?

It's how the NBA works. We lost the core franchise player for nothing and front office published one pager add to thank the guy for the contribution. I know the fans are pissed, but that's the fans. Players and front office need to be pros and accept the rules of the game.
 
I understand all the comments that can be written, but man we are serious and do self-criticism just like someone said in another post, it seems that Ricky is to blame until they have reinforced Eastern teams and that Gobert does not go to the game of the stars etc ... and if we put ourselves up to the future third world war it is also to ricky.
is nothing consistent throwing a basket and we all know. But from that to read atrocities that I have read there is a world.
And yet "as I put a day in another post" .. there is never a single comment of tangerines that throws crowder to basket, or that joe is deleted from the game more than once, or that Rudy he escapes too many balls from his hands and that he is a limited pivot in attack or even that Donovan's shot selection is often terrifying ..
NOTHING..
Only ricky, ricky and more ricky
Has given you to think that maybe this team is not contender because it is not as good as you think?.
and to finish, put a boy like Dante who has played 4 decent matches in 3 years as if he were the new messiah.
Long live the self-criticism
Best post i've read in this forum
 
Underrated?

Then why aren't we championship caliber? We lost by 50 to the Mavs, and it was hardly the only atrocious game we've had this year. No team in the league has near our chemistry off the top of my head, Hawks are a good one, what's their record again? GSW has plenty of chemistry issues and they are about to chip for the fourth time in five years.

It's cool to have good chemistry, but it's overrated. Especially when considering trades, free agents, etc. If we had traded Rubio or Favors for more talent we wouldn't have suddenly been worse because our players weren't best friends.

Having five players on the court who's skillsets compliment eachother well. Now that is underrated, especially round these parts.

Best post I have read in a while!
 
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I understand all the comments that can be written, but man we are serious and do self-criticism just like someone said in another post, it seems that Ricky is to blame until they have reinforced Eastern teams and that Gobert does not go to the game of the stars etc ... and if we put ourselves up to the future third world war it is also to ricky.
is nothing consistent throwing a basket and we all know. But from that to read atrocities that I have read there is a world.
And yet "as I put a day in another post" .. there is never a single comment of tangerines that throws crowder to basket, or that joe is deleted from the game more than once, or that Rudy he escapes too many balls from his hands and that he is a limited pivot in attack or even that Donovan's shot selection is often terrifying ..
NOTHING..
Only ricky, ricky and more ricky
Has given you to think that maybe this team is not contender because it is not as good as you think?.
and to finish, put a boy like Dante who has played 4 decent matches in 3 years as if he were the new messiah.
Long live the self-criticism

True that. Not one.
 
there is never a single comment of tangerines that throws crowder to basket

Sorry but this part was quite funny to read and I thought it could get lost in translation, although many people will probably understand it given the context. Lanzar mandarinas (to shoot / to throw tangerines) is an expression popularized by a famous (and unfortunately deceased) Spanish broadcaster, and it would be the equivalent to shooting bricks in English.

Now, Elfront, don't get too worked up because of what you read here or on any other basketball forum. Most fans can't help looking for a scapegoat when things are not going as they expected (regardless of whether those expectations were fair or not), and the easiest guy to root against is the one who's not that good at shooting, because for most of those fans it's more obvious and easier to assess than defense, leadership, intangibles or just being good at running an offense. You can bring a lot of those things and even do it consistently, but if you're not shooting well it's not gonna go unnoticed, and those same fans will even talk about how the rest of your game isn't that good either, or it's just not as important for the team. You just need to learn to live with it, don't pay attention to the haters, and if you still have a hard time reading them then the ignore list is your friend. There's one in every forum and it's pretty useful to avoid wasting time on trolls, haters or openly dumb (or merely ignorant) posters who would just feel naked and empty without their preferred narratives, so they just keep repeating them over and over.

As for Ricky's comments, I understand them, no player likes being offered to a different team when he's happy with his situation there and is confident the team can reach its goals, but that's the NBA for you. He'll move on right away and just give his all on the court as usual. And when July comes, he can look for a new home and find a situation where he doesn't have to go through the same experience next season. It's not like he fits the Jazz offense perfectly, nor viceversa, so it'll probably be for the best anyway.
 
My biggest concern is what this does to the other players. They love Ricky. So, when it comes to their free agency are they going to remember how they treated Ricky? Know what I'm sayin?


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My biggest concern is what this does to the other players. They love Ricky. So, when it comes to their free agency are they going to remember how they treated Ricky? Know what I'm sayin?


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What do you expect them to do? They treated Ricky with respect and told him the truth about having him in trade talks. They were trying to improve the team which is part of the job.
 
Rubio whole career has been hurt because he hasn't been able to shoot consistently from 3 pt range. He's a good dude, and he has tried his best and has been a great teammate. He has got to understand that DLs job is to improve the team. Sometimes that means he has to make hard decisions and hurt some feelings.
 
If Ricky really loves it here, he'll accept being a backup and sign for backup money. I've been saying for a long time that it's the role that best suits him if he wants to play on a championship team. If he wants to be a starter on a 7-8 seed team and make a little more money, then he should move on. It's his choice. But I think I read that he feels he has already made enough money and that winning is what's more important now.
 
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