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tonstermits said:
Looks like Boston has an ego problem I wonder how Quin would handle a roster like that
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Brad doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who can handle dynamics like that. Seems a little too passive. Kinda like a Hayward.
 
Brad's problem is he's too close to a certain player who is putting up 11-5-3 on poor shooting, but is making a fortune. Whatever Stevens does/says holds no credibility since the other players know he will never hold Hayward accountable.

The unrest is gratifying. Kyrie is going to take the quickest exit out of town...if he's smart. Morris will follow. I haven't seen anyone hop on the Morris bandwagon as a possible target for the Jazz. Seems like he'd be a very good option. He's shooting 41% on his 3's and from his comments, would like the camaraderie of the Jazz team. He's not a star, but between him and Crowder, the 4 would be a solid position for Utah. Only in the case of striking out on other free agents, of course.
 
Kyrie is a cancer in that locker room. Maybe we will take Haywood off their hands if Ainge gives us all their first round picks this year which I think is 4.
 
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Danny Ainge has created a cutthroat, rather thankless environment that does not engender trust or loyalty from the front office but expects the players to sacrifice everything for the organization. The perfect example is the handling of Isaiah Thomas -- for the 2016-17 season, he was fifth in MVP voting, second team all-NBA, led the Celtics to the first seed in the East and the Eastern Conference finals while playing despite his sister dying in an automobile accident, needing dental surgery and suffering a now-debilitating hip injury during that playoff run.

What was Thomas' reward for helping the Celtics overachieve and succeed? Getting traded.

Moreover, Ainge has shown that he looks at the players and drafted and developed by Celtics as rather disposable and largely rewards the players who come from other organizations. The three highest-paid players (Gordon Hayward, Al Horford and Kyrie Irving) came via free agency or trade. Despite spending two top three picks in consecutive drafts on small forwards, the Celtics sign another small forward (Hayward) to a $30 million-per-year contract because he was Brad Stevens' top player in college. Now playing the still-recovering Hayward is problematic as he has to get minutes to justify his contract, at the expense of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.

Of course, players such as Brown and Terry Rozier are going to be resentful. In any organization, there is going to be friction if an employer passes over an employee who played a major role in the organization (Brown, Rozier) in favor of hiring a new employee (Hayward, Irving) who gets more reputation and corporate leverage. Brown and Rozier see this situation as, "We were two of main reasons we went to Game 7 of the 2018 Eastern Conference finals, yet all we see are 'Wait 'til Kyrie and Gordon come back' -- two guys who didn't even play in the playoffs -- and our names in trade rumors."
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infection said:
I’m sure ijazz must be on some Celtics forum talking about how classless they are as fans for their booing.
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Post#259 » by yazfan » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:51 pm
I am from Indy and a Butler fan so when Hayward was drafted by the Jazz I became a Jazz Fan,
I literally have watch EVERY Jazz game Hayward played thanks to NBA LP.
Few things are consistent.
1. Hayward looks checked out though he is not
2. Not a huge emotional guy.
3. Even when Healthy ALWAYS starts the season slow and literally ramps up month over month.
4. Very unselfish, at times too unselfish IMO but I think that is why guys like playing with him.
5. Next thing you know his stats are awesome and you didn't even notice it.
Now the Celtics are WAAAAY more talented than the Jazz so it will be interesting to see if Hayward lets others take theirs over his.
I must confess I do not know how teams decide who should take more shots, I assume they plan it out to an extent...
Hayward got paid, he will not be as concerned this year on his stats as I am sure others were.
He said recently he still doesn't have the liftoff off his left foot. That tells me he is 80% give or take.
It took Paul George almost 1 whole bad season to get beck to form. I honestly do not know what to expect from Hayward this year.
I just hope by the 2nd half of the season he is close to his old form. Stinks for the Celtics.
Year1 - out injury
Year2 - getting back to form hopefully be the end of the year
Year3 - after this hopefully fully healthy season he can opt out ...(Maybe I am hopeful, but I hope he opts out , resigns with the Celtics at a Discount to keep the stars together.... Time will tell
 
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