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Uta vs. Hou: Game 2 off/def strategy change up?

One thing to consider, and maybe a glimmer of hope is that the end score doesn't matter, only if you won or lost.

All Houston did was hold serve on their home court. Jazz simply must do the same for games 3 and 4 and then get back to steal one game on the road.

Jazz can do it, they just need to accept make adjustments and play confident.

I think the score matters when it comes to building confidence. You don’t think our team would have a different attitude had we lost by 3 in both games rather than 30?
 
One thing to consider, and maybe a glimmer of hope is that the end score doesn't matter, only if you won or lost.

All Houston did was hold serve on their home court. Jazz simply must do the same for games 3 and 4 and then get back to steal one game on the road.

Jazz can do it, they just need to accept make adjustments and play confident.

This is being overly optimistic. Did you forget how the Rockets beat us on our home court last year in the playoffs. Some Jazz fans just think going home will solve the issues of us not scoring or defending them. The Jazz are very flawed and Houston might be the worse match up for them. It seems to me that the Jazz don't believe they can beat the Rockets which is part of the problem.
 
To say he’s the worst 3 point shooter in the NBA is like saying Boban is the worst penetrator in the league. Favors barely does it and when he does, he’s not good.

I will assume Locke is right and that his 3 pt efficiency is league-worst. But it’s on so few attempts it’s basically not worth mentioning. Westbrook shooting 29% on 5.6 attempts is worse to me because he’s negatively affecting far greater possessions in the course of his sucking.
Then why do we force him to play that way? It is the biggest myth right now in the NBA that stretch fours are so scary. No one guards Draymond anymore outside the three. Because he isn't that good out there. When they move Favors to the corner they are playing 4 on 5 offense. He doesn't get to the teeth of the defense in the paint or get any offense rebounds. He might be the second best offensive player on our team. But, because of these analytics media nerds he is sitting in a corner to try and stretch the floor. Would any of you on the forum guard Favors or Crowder outside the three point line?

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Then why do we force him to play that way? It is the biggest myth right now in the NBA that stretch fours are so scary. No one guards Draymond anymore outside the three. Because he isn't that good out there. When they move Favors to the corner they are playing 4 on 5 offense. He doesn't get to the teeth of the defense in the paint or get any offense rebounds. He might be the second best offensive player on our team. But, because of these analytics media nerds he is sitting in a corner to try and stretch the floor. Would any of you on the forum guard Favors or Crowder outside the three point line?

I agree about Favors. He has the interior skillset to work alongside Gobert and take advantage of mismatches down below.

Crowder you guard beyond the 3-point line when he's above the free-throw line extension. He has been pretty good there, last I heard.
 
Neither Favors or Gobert can create offense in the post. Yes, they both can finish, but we can't just feed them, let them go to work and expect them to score.

Houston is Utah, but just better:

Harden and Mitchell - both are asked to do the lion's share of shot creation, facilitation and shot making. Harden is a MVP candidate whereas Mitchell is still raw.

Paul and Rubio - they are asked to be the secondary facilitator and hit shots when open. Paul is simply better all around than Rubio.

Gordon and Ingles - both asked to defend, hit open shots and make the occasional play. Gordon can create his own shot better and his defense has been great so far.

Tucker and Favors - they are there for the dirty work and hit the shots when open. Tucker can hit the 3 and Favors cannot. Tucker's ability to hit the 3 spreads so much and he can defend any position.

Capella and Gobert - protect the rim and finish point blank chances. The success of these guys depends on the successes of their 4 teammates. If those guys play well, Capella and Gobert get more room to work.

Overall, they play offense like we wish we could play and switch on D like we wish we could. Outside of Gobert and Capella, they have a substantially better player at all 4 positions.


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To say he’s the worst 3 point shooter in the NBA is like saying Boban is the worst penetrator in the league. Favors barely does it and when he does, he’s not good.

I will assume Locke is right and that his 3 pt efficiency is league-worst. But it’s on so few attempts it’s basically not worth mentioning. Westbrook shooting 29% on 5.6 attempts is worse to me because he’s negatively affecting far greater possessions in the course of his sucking.
So favors probably shouldn't shoot any three pointers.
And Westbrook should shoot a lot less threes but he is an idiot.
I never thought of quin and favors as idiots before though. Maybe I should have.
Edit: I'm just guessing but Westbrook threes are probably more difficult and less open threes than favors.
Favors is the worst 3 point shooter in the NBA (if Locke is correct) and to make matters worse his are all wide open and he provides no spacing with that shot

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Neither Favors or Gobert can create offense in the post. Yes, they both can finish, but we can't just feed them, let them go to work and expect them to score.

Houston is Utah, but just better:

Harden and Mitchell - both are asked to do the lion's share of shot creation, facilitation and shot making. Harden is a MVP candidate whereas Mitchell is still raw.

Paul and Rubio - they are asked to be the secondary facilitator and hit shots when open. Paul is simply better all around than Rubio.

Gordon and Ingles - both asked to defend, hit open shots and make the occasional play. Gordon can create his own shot better and his defense has been great so far.

Tucker and Favors - they are there for the dirty work and hit the shots when open. Tucker can hit the 3 and Favors cannot. Tucker's ability to hit the 3 spreads so much and he can defend any position.

Capella and Gobert - protect the rim and finish point blank chances. The success of these guys depends on the successes of their 4 teammates. If those guys play well, Capella and Gobert get more room to work.

Overall, they play offense like we wish we could play and switch on D like we wish we could. Outside of Gobert and Capella, they have a substantially better player at all 4 positions.


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Pretty dang good assessment.

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Except we haven't encouraged Favor or Gobert to create any skills down low. They are busy forcing lobs only and pushing Favors to the three point line. Because they believe spacing is more important so they don't even try to use our bigs down low. If spacing is so important why is this the first time in the history of th sport that we have heard about spacing?

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Jazz have the Rockets right where they want them. Overconfident and complacent. Jazz in 5

Quin is genius. He knew 2 blowouts were better than 1. Now they are really overconfident and will be super panicked after we tie the series. 2-2. All y’all panicking going to look foolish. Jazz in 6
 
Quin is genius. He knew 2 blowouts were better than 1. Now they are really overconfident and will be super panicked after we tie the series. 2-2. All y’all panicking going to look foolish. Jazz in 6
Good old rope-a-dope pretend like we forgot how to play basketball for two games then we actually guard Harden and quit jacking up 3 point bricks.

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Lol

People say Ben is negative cause Ben writes how he sees the game and doesn't sugarcoat it. I saw a lot of people bitching about his article after last game on Facebook. I read it and I realized how many cupcakes, brats, delusional people are out there. Jazz fans, and I'd imagine any other, take things too personal or read into it or deny it.

Oh, did Ben say the poor Jazz got dominated from the get go and were outclassed? Did that offend you? Is he a terrible, mean and negative writer because so? If so, grow the **** up, you pansies. It's pathetic brats like you that had their mommies sugarcoat everything so you can get upset when you don't get your way.

I hate people like that. ****ing delusional.

Did I say I was offended by Ben? Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no, I didn't.

I like Ben and most of the local media, even when they're negative.
 
Fine, just telling you I have been to Houston it is a trashy city.

Not really they are using fake #s to justify that garbage defense. They have been pumping stretch players all year long talking about spacing. That Crowder is better than Favors all garbage.

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We're a 50 win team. I wouldn't say that's garbage by any stretch. How many other teams won 50 games??? 7!! That's it. So, yes, we are really good. We're just getting smoked by a team that's better.
 
To say he’s the worst 3 point shooter in the NBA is like saying Boban is the worst penetrator in the league. Favors barely does it and when he does, he’s not good.

I will assume Locke is right and that his 3 pt efficiency is league-worst. But it’s on so few attempts it’s basically not worth mentioning. Westbrook shooting 29% on 5.6 attempts is worse to me because he’s negatively affecting far greater possessions in the course of his sucking.
Every look Favors gets is open or wide open off the catch in the corners..
 
I'm ashamed to say I didnt watch the game last night. I had a project start extremely early the next morning and turned the game off and went to sleep after the first 4 turnovers.

This **** is starting to feel like the Dwill/Booze era Jazz vs the Lakers in the 00's.
 
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