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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

also there's not a single scenario where I would take on Love in the next 2 years or so with that mammoth contract. You want to maximise the potential value you can bring in while Mitchell is on his rookie deal and Love locks you into a Mitchell/Love/Gobert core which A) I don't think takes the Jazz into contending status and B) Is relying heavily on Love's health while he goes to the wrong side of 30.

I would rather DL preserve that cap space and whiff rather than locking the team into Love before Mitchell's extension, and I would hate to see DL whiff on a 3rd star. That's how much I would hate a Love trade.
 
Sandman822 said:
O'Neale and Mitchell are not very close from a trade value standpoint and if you seriously think that the organisation should consider O'Neale closer to Mitchell's untouchable status than Gobert then you're severely undervaluing Gobert. There's no way in hell a young role player on a nice contract with potential but hasn't shown All Star level talent like Mitchell or an older glue guy coming off a down year should be considered more valuable/untouchable than a DPOTY C, and your reasoning only speaks further to why Gobert should be considered more untouchable than O'Neale or Ingles in the first place but you're ignoring that because of Favors.
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I'm saying Mitchell and O'Neale are close like they are buddies. They spend a ton of time together. It's a loyalty thing.

Gobert and DM are probably close too, but the difference is this - O'Neale is not getting a big return but Gobert might.

To win a title, you need a handful of O'Neale type guys. There is no reason to package a guy Mitchell is close to in order to get a similar value in return. If you trade Gobert, you do it to massively upgrade PG or the wing then slide Favors in as starting C.

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Anyway, I think it depends on what we do. If we presume we bring in a 20 ppg person, then I only see Conley and Love being those guys (could make a strong argument for Niko but so far DL has passed him up twice and probably not any more excited about him now that he’s out of sight and out of mind).

If we trade for Conley, then you offer the full MLE to Jabari.

If you go for Love, then you sign Beverley with the MLE. It even makes bringing back Rubio reasonable because you have a lot of options between the two and not overly reliant on either one.

I suppose a trade could land you Galo, but I don’t believe it’d be in a trade with players (because LA would want cap space), so it would be absorbing Galo into our cap space, which would prohibit us from having the MLE, so it’s not realistic.

Other guys that are good targets afterward:

Terrence Ross
Dewayne Dedmon

*again I’m not advocating a Love trade as much as I’m acknowledging its realistically high probability.
 
LoPo said:
True. I guess we could find a way to keep Rubio to go with Love. So a trade for Love would likely be:

Favors, Exum and a 1st for Love

Then we pay Rubio to stay.

No thanks

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This is the trade I think happens except we also include a second, because they know DL is desperate.
 
Sandman822 said:
O'Neale and Mitchell are not very close from a trade value standpoint and if you seriously think that the organisation should consider O'Neale closer to Mitchell's untouchable status than Gobert then you're severely undervaluing Gobert. There's no way in hell a young role player on a nice contract with potential but hasn't shown All Star level talent like Mitchell or an older glue guy coming off a down year should be considered more valuable/untouchable than a DPOTY C, and your reasoning only speaks further to why Gobert should be considered more untouchable than O'Neale or Ingles in the first place but you're ignoring that because of Favors.
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He was saying Oneal and Mitchell are close relationship wise, not value or ability wise.
I think anyway

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infection said:
Anyway, I think it depends on what we do. If we presume we bring in a 20 ppg person, then I only see Conley and Love being those guys (could make a strong argument for Niko but so far DL has passed him up twice and probably not any more excited about him now that he’s out of sight and out of mind).

If we trade for Conley, then you offer the full MLE to Jabari.

If you go for Love, then you sign Beverley with the MLE. It even makes bringing back Rubio reasonable because you have a lot of options between the two and not overly reliant on either one.

I suppose a trade could land you Galo, but I don’t believe it’d be in a trade with players (because LA would want cap space), so it would be absorbing Galo into our cap space, which would prohibit us from having the MLE, so it’s not realistic.

Other guys that are good targets afterward:

Terrence Ross
Dewayne Dedmon

*again I’m not advocating a Love trade as much as I’m acknowledging its realistically high probability.
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Why is it a high probability though? Is DL the dumbest gm that ever lived or something?
He would have to be to have a high probability of trading for the worst contract in the league. (Though walls is probably in the running)

Edit: John wall contact is worse. Lololololol at that ****ing thing. The wizards are ****ed forever

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John wall has 4 years and 169,344,000 left lol.
When he is 32 years old he will make 46,872,000 in that one season. Lol.
He has the best agent in the history of the world.

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fishonjazz said:
Why is it a high probability though? Is DL the dumbest gm that ever lived or something?
He would have to be to have a high probability of trading for the worst contract in the league. (Though walls is probably in the running)

Edit: John wall contact is worse. Lololololol at that ****ing thing. The wizards are ****ed forever

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No. I’ve been saying DL was a top three GM for a couple years and that hasn’t waivered. But he’s been valuing potential success over tangible success for a while now. Ever since we knew Donovan was ready, I’ve advocated we needed to switch gears. He was at the bar but didn’t want to commit to any girl because he thought something better could come along, and he didn’t want to cash in his chips. Well, it’s nearing closing time and there are only a couple people left. While Love has a lot of baggage, DL doesn’t really have the option of going home alone.
 
Shad said:
We have 2 games left in the season and (in my opinion) we need a big blow up. Rudy will be 27 next season and we really need to maximize him before he 'may' want to leave.

So, what do you do?

Claim "our chemistry is really solid and we need another year to get healthy." Sign a 35+ year old vet, a g-leaguer, and a draft pick to call it a season?

Do you shoot for the stars and throw contracts out there for Kemba, Tobias, etc and hopefully land one?

Let's hear it.

I'd go for Kemba and open up the market to literally everyone on our team signed the following season not named donovan or rudy.
I'd call the pistons and offer favors, jae or ingles, exum, Allen, and this years pick and next years pick for Blake (should get it done). Probably sign neto again, get another backup on the cheap and fill in the rest with some shooters.

Kemba
Donovan
Ingles/jae
Blake
Rudy

That's a great starting lineup with still royce, neto, korver coming off the bench. We can create, Blake Kemba can score, gives us great spacing
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I have yet to hear why you think it's smart to blow up a 50 win team.
 
infection said:
No. I’ve been saying DL was a top three GM for a couple years and that hasn’t waivered. But he’s been valuing potential success over tangible success for a while now. Ever since we knew Donovan was ready, I’ve advocated we needed to switch gears. He was at the bar but didn’t want to commit to any girl because he thought something better could come along, and he didn’t want to cash in his chips. Well, it’s nearing closing time and there are only a couple people left. While Love has a lot of baggage, DL doesn’t really have the option of going home alone.
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There has to be other bad options available that aren't as bad though.


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