You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

[colton]

@Handlogtens Heroes
Is there a way to tell if a player is good at defense by looking at a particular stat or set of stats?

I thought defensive win shares would be a good indicator but I looked at that stats for a few guys who have a rep as bad defenders (harden, kanter, love, lavine) and all of them have positive defensive win share numbers. Does anyone in the league have negative defensive win share numbers? I mean if those guys have positive numbers then everyone would I would think.

Is there just no way to measure good defense statistically?

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Look up Rudy, see if he's positive or negative.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

@Handlogtens Heroes
Is there a way to tell if a player is good at defense by looking at a particular stat or set of stats?

I thought defensive win shares would be a good indicator but I looked at that stats for a few guys who have a rep as bad defenders (harden, kanter, love, lavine) and all of them have positive defensive win share numbers. Does anyone in the league have negative defensive win share numbers? I mean if those guys have positive numbers then everyone would I would think.

Is there just no way to measure good defense statistically?

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Defensive win shares are generally not negative. There isn’t any perfect defensive stat. Unless you are elite like Gobert it is tough to point at one thing... even on/off is pretty flawed.

Trust me on Lavine... his defense is ***... think of all the bad parts of ABs defense then turn it up a few notches.

He’s not a bad player but he’s closer to a good stats on a bad team guy than a winning player atm. He’s not available... he’d cost more than Conley in a trade if he was.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Is there any chance that D-lo never gets to the line, and has other bad stats due to the way the nets coach wants him to play?

In other words, if he played for the jazz is there a chance that his percentage at the rim, free throw attempts, and usage all improve due to system, coaching, teammates? Or is he simply what he is? Did he have the same flaws in college? On the Lakers?

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Nets are well coached and have decent spacing... if anything I think the way they play helps him.

 

[infection]

Alright, so here's my question:

What are the odds that Jabari can give you most of what Harris can give you? I can't help but feel there's a bit of a recency bias at play here. Rewind two years and ask this question, and Tobias hasn't shot up everyone's list, just as Jabari hasn't dropped so far down. Now, obviously more information is better than less, and handicapping that evaluation by saying "ignore the last two years" is fairly short sighted, but what are the chances that the course of the last two years will remain static (or at least trend in the same direction) with both those guys? Are we looking at finished products, or is there more variability to come? There are certain reservations I'd have about Tobias, but if you told me today we'd have the chance to get him, I'd take it in a heartbeat. No beef about getting him. But Jabari is the ultimate buy-low guy, and right now Harris is a buy-high guy (you have to max him). There have been some stupid comments Jabari has made, but by all accounts he's a good teammate and guys like him. Why not put our culture to test that DL raves so much about? I see him very easily being able to put up 20 ppg with us. His defense isn't good, but neither is Harris'. If ever there's a position for Jabari to succeed, it's here and now. The personnel downside to picking up Harris is that he's your off-season -- you jettison some guys and use up all your flexibility just to obtain him.

My plan would be go hard at Conley. Hard. You then operate over the cap. You could argue Jabari gets above the MLE, but if we offered a 3 year deal on the MLE, with a 3rd year player option, that puts him in a situation where he knows he's starting, knows he's needed, is in a great environment, a familiar place where he has a house, and allows him to rehab his career and brand for two years and then opt out. I think Conley/Jabari is the closest we get to the dream off-season of Conley/Harris.

Hell, even if we just used our capspace to land Jabari and Beverley/Caruso, I'd rate that as a good off-season. I know the Favors analytics darlings wouldn't like that, but it balances our needs out significantly. Unfortunately, I think the FO is in the Favors analytics darling camp.

 

[JazzForLifee]

okay... don’t even need to wait till july now. draft night might do sth for us


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[infection]

Official team Conley + Jabari. Cobari. Jonley. Marker.

And this guy rounding out the trifecta:

I'd even bring on the churro guy to be a vendor at Vivint.

 

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[candrew]

David Locke tears apart the Dlo Russell idea in his podcast with Tony Jones. He's incredibly inefficient. He's in the 13th percentile at finishing at the rim and never gets to the free throw line. He had a 98% usage rate last year. He thinks he wouldn't help the Jazz.

Starts at about the 27:30 mark https://www.lockedonjazz.net/jazz/l...-or-tobias-plus-kyle-korver-season-in-review/

I haven't listened to the podcast but I'd agree with the sentiment. And I'd add, as someone who watched a lot of Net games, he's super streaky and has a low basketball IQ. For every game he keeps you in, he plays you out of another by either bad shot selection or poor decision making. No thanks.

The Nets knew what they were doing when they locked in Dinwiddie on a reasonable deal. I'd take that over Russell and a bloated FA deal any day of the week.

 

[fishonjazz]

Look up Rudy, see if he's positive or negative.

Everyone is positive apparently.
Harden and gobert have similar defensive win share numbers lol.

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[infection]

Would not be excited about Russell at all. HH describes it best as empty calories.

 

[fishonjazz]

Official team Conley + Jabari. Cobari. Jonley. Marker.

And this guy rounding out the trifecta:

I'd even bring on the churro guy to be a vendor at Vivint.

I like jabari way more than love so at least there's that

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