Interesting WaPo article today: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...eeds-adjust-that-fact/?utm_term=.bba090f5dcbd
An Alleged 1953 UFO Crash and Burial Near Garrison, Utah
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Good answer, and I agree. However, the difference here is that big pharm has hundreds, if not thousands of “staple” products, that cover a vast multitude of human/animal maladies. The chances of a single pill/vaccine/treatment coming out that would threaten their entire industry is essentially zilch.
I also agree with this, albeit taken in context. While hybrid tech isn’t anything to even raise an eyebrow at by today’s standards, it was pretty radical in 2000 when the first Prius came out. Imagine if it had come out thirty years earlier.
As for the tech as a whole, here’s one way to look at it, in a nut job sort of way (but hey, that’s what this thread is about, right?) Who’s to say that we’ve got 100% of “Hybrid tech” (whatever that may encompass) right now? Going off the assumption that it came from reverse engineering of some alien tech, and that the gov’t, or powers that be (just roll with it) have been, and will continue to, stagger the release or implementation of said tech, how do we really know if we’ve got the full picture.
Ya, the theory is waaaay out there, but is it that difficult to at least say it’s possible? If a bonafide cure for cancer was released tomorrow, how many Rx companies (the drug makers who supply the chemo, and the thousands of other cancer drugs) bite the dust by the end of the week? If the worlds dependence on oil dropped by 50% over a 6-12 month stretch, how do you think world markets would react? If solar energy replaced electric and gas utilities for 50% of the world over a 6-12 month period, what would happen to the global energy markets?
Hypothetical and silly theories abound, I know, but really, what if? We are in a society where essentially every person over the age of 18 has a smart phone with unbelievable capabilities, but we can’t figure out cancer? We can put the world and all of its knowledge, wireless internet that allows us to communicate instantly around the globe, and a lightning fast computer that dwarfs what NASA was using 20 years ago in the palm of our hands, yet we can’t seem to figure out clean energy? Fossil fuels? Still? Really?
Sometimes when I see smoke, there’s a fire. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it’s probably not a goose, even if the mainstream media tells me it is.
I’m not saying that anything in this post is true, and honestly, I don’t believe it is, but I can certainly say it’s possible without much hesitation. It absolutely kills me when anyone says that something is IMPOSSIBLE, but it really grinds my gears when a scientist makes that claim. (Looking at you, Dolton)
Show me a scientist who is 100% certain that something is impossible and I’ll show you a guy who will likely be eating his words in 25-50 years.
jimmy eat jazz
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Oh Lord, really?
Coming soon, threads on Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, astral projection, crystals, QAnon, etc.
It never ceases to amaze me that we're in the 21st Century, with educational attainment at its highest peak in the history of human kind, and there is still no shortage of people who believe in fairy tales.
People will believe literally anything.
Humans as a species are easily duped and easily manipulated.
I'm not saying there's no UFOs or no extra-terrestrials (in fact, I'd bet there are), but the evidence that they have crashed here (and the gov knows about it) or that they are flying around observing us should be pretty damned strong and objectively verifiable before I will believe it.
Bill Nye said it best, "Extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence." Deviate from this standard, and you'll soon be joining the ranks of the cranks, duped, gullible, not very bright, etc. who believe all sorts of silly crap.
Coming soon, threads on Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, astral projection, crystals, QAnon, etc.
It never ceases to amaze me that we're in the 21st Century, with educational attainment at its highest peak in the history of human kind, and there is still no shortage of people who believe in fairy tales.
People will believe literally anything.
Humans as a species are easily duped and easily manipulated.
I'm not saying there's no UFOs or no extra-terrestrials (in fact, I'd bet there are), but the evidence that they have crashed here (and the gov knows about it) or that they are flying around observing us should be pretty damned strong and objectively verifiable before I will believe it.
Bill Nye said it best, "Extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence." Deviate from this standard, and you'll soon be joining the ranks of the cranks, duped, gullible, not very bright, etc. who believe all sorts of silly crap.
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jimmy eat jazz
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I'm not a physical scientist, but I'm 100% certain there's no Loch Ness monster, no Big Foot, no ghosts, no fairies, etc. I'm confident 25-50 years from now the same will be true.
This is a rather broad blanket statement.
Fully electric vehicles go back to the 19th century, they were outpaced by the capabilities of gasoline (and in some ways, still are). Hybrids are the result of incremental improvements in battery and charging techniques.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicle
Archie Moses
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I may not be the brightest bulb (or however the hell Trout put it lol) but having so many people today still deny UFO's, poke fun at those who do, or stereotype people who believe in them as Cuckoo (Koo Koo) is pretty concerning and interesting. Maybe people like to bury their heads in the sand because the idea of UFOs brings questions to which there are not many answers and the assumed answers can be scary.
The fact of the matter is UFOs do exist. Many of them can be explained. Many of them can't. I'm 100% convinced I've seen a UFO. It was not a figment of my imagination. It was not an illusion. It wasn't me misidentifying something that I just didn't know about. It was a flying object that had technology that man hasn't achieved yet. I'm not saying it was aliens cause, obviously, I don't know that. It was real though and it happened. I don't need people to believe me. There have been many who've seen UFO's and described them exactly the way I witnessed.
Archie Moses
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This articulates well what I feel about it.
The fact of the matter is we know very little about space and science. We've come a long way, and it's incredible some of the discoveries we've made and achieved as a human species, but we know very little of what we can and will know if the future. Many things in science, that we think we know is wrong too.
Existence, space, life, consciousness, science, are all things we still have very little understandings of.
Archie Moses
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I don't believe in bigfoot. However, the history of reports of a large, bi-pedal creature spotted all over the world for thousands of years makes me believe there is something people are seeing and phenomena. I'm certain it's bears in most cases and DNA tests have shown this time and time again.
jimmy eat jazz
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No problem here. People ARE seeing things. (Although I'd be my retirement there are also Bigfoot cranks manufacturing evidence for a variety of reasons.) The human tendency throughout history when observing unexplained phenomena is to attach supernatural explanations to them. Just because some people see things they can't explain rationally, I'm loathe to accept their often supernatural, or otherwise extraordinary, explanations for them.
Archie Moses
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I feel the same. I'm not a believer in ghosts, bigfoot, Gemini signs, soothsayers, fortune tellers, demons, angels, or people who talk to the dead. I look at people who believe in that as either Santa Clause believers or people who experienced something and didn't have an explanation for it, therefore convincing themselves it was something it wasn't.
I do, however, believe in aliens, UFOs. The only other paranormal things I like reading about, learning about, or listening about would be spirit guides (out of body experiences,) interdimensional beings and activated conciousness, and for kicks and giggles anything that has to do with Skinwalker Ranch. When I read about spirit guides and interdimensions, I wonder if a lot of that stuff gets interpreted as ghosts, demons, etc.
I experienced a pretty disturbing episode of sleep paralysis about a year-and-a-half ago. I have a scientific explanation for how and why it happened. As real as it was, I don't look at it as anything else but a dream. It does make the hair on my neck stand up though when I think about my experience and being attacked by a witch (lol I know it sounds stupid - there's a thread here somewhere where I share it in detail) and then later finding out that many people have the same experience and the witch is known as the hag. Lol. There's even a wiki page about her. I've heard of sleep paralysis and it feeling like a demon sitting on your chest, or someone standing over your bed before. But I like I said, I never heard of the hag. I think a lot of people who say they were abducted by aliens really just experienced sleep paralysis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_hag
I have a close friends that says he has had out of body experiences and can almost by will. He's the type of person who's really logical about everything. He's an atheist and was raised in a really religious Christian house. Just not the person I'd ever think would say that.
I listen to music on YouTube to help me sl6 that usually has in the title out of body experience or binaural waves, etc. If you ever get bored read the comments under them. So many people think they can travel out of body. Do I believe it? No. But that's not to say they're not experiencing something.
Another thing I've been going down the rabbit hole learning about is DMT. That stuff and trips seem fascinating. I don't think I'd ever try it, but it sounds like one hell of an experience.
Thank you, Joe "DMT" Rogan.
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Red
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Yeah, long standing interest of mine as well, and one reason I suspect the answer to the nature of UFOs is related to the nature of consciousness. DMT: The Spirit Molecule, featuring Rogan, is an eye opening documentary, and Dr. Strassman's research in that regard is leading edge, as far as I'm concerned:
https://www.rickstrassman.com/publications/the-spirit-molecule/
One of my nephews, he's in his late 20's now, experienced DMT via partaking in 3 ayahuasca ceremonies. This was in New Mexico, and under the guidance of a Peruvian shaman. The impression I got from listening to my nephew's accounts was that it took a lot of courage on his part to do that. Lot of Westerners are into ayahuasca tourism to South America. Not sure my heart could take it!
Jazz4ever
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Possibly, but chances are they are using their light speed, anti gravity devices to travel to much more interesting places than our barbaric world.