An Alleged 1953 UFO Crash and Burial Near Garrison, Utah

[LogGrad98]

xkcd has a certain dry humor to most of it's strips.

Well there's dry and then there's dessicated.

 

[RandyForRubio]

No, I'm not joking.

Yes, UFOs don't have to be inherently alien. I believe many UFOs are misidentified or have logical explanations.

You see, I'm willing to meet in the middle. The problem is when evidence, witnesses, documents, and highly credible people talk about what WE know about UFOs and why they are unexplainable, it gets brushed under the rug or laughed at.

In the article I shared, it covers 5 traits of UFOs that defy simply saying "it's not alien" because it sure as hell isn't human. If it is, please explain.

Neither of us is willing to meet in the middle bub, but only one of us is recognizing that.

 

[addictionary]

It’s fun to think there are aliens visiting the Earth. I wish one of them had the guts to go live on TV so all of us could shut up and accept if it is a fact. On the other hand the universe is so huge and the next Star system is so far away that I fear it also is quite possible that we were never visited before.

 

[framer]

Considering the difficulties of manned space travel I think it’s more reasonable (but still difficult) to believe UFOs are extraterrestrial in origin, but there aren’t any aliens on board. Especially because they’d have bothered to come all this way,but never bothered to announce themselves.

But dat Prime Directive, doe!

 

[Archie Moses]

Neither of us is willing to meet in the middle bub, but only one of us is recognizing that.

Lol.

Yeah, ok, bub.

I'm like, "Yeah, most UFOs aren't of alien origin and have explanations. That doesn't account for the ones that defy human technology and we have video evidence of. I can't say for certain it's not aliens, but it's definitely not humans. If it is, can you explain?"

You're like, "Are you joking? UFOs aren't inherently alien. Witness testimony is skewed." - Even though we have video evidence and witnesses from the most credible people on earth (I dare you to argue that.)

Me: "I agree, they're not all aliens. The ones that defy logic and clearly have technology humans don't have certainly raises questions though, if not, can you explain? Can we agree on that?

You: While avoiding my question and basically saying, "No, I can't offer an explanation for that. I'm not willing to meet in the middle, but I'll act like it's you."
Lol lol loz

G T F O H, Bub.

 

[Archie Moses]

But dat Prime Directive, doe!

Did I miss something? Is Zombie an expert on space travel and Wormhole Theory?

If you are comparing alien space travel to what humans know and are limited to, with all due respect I'd like to remind you how little we know about the universe, life, physics, space travel, etc.

Not saying Zombie said he was an expert, but just making a point to his post.

 

[Zombie]

Did I miss something? Is Zombie an expert on space travel and Wormhole Theory?

If you are comparing alien space travel to what humans know and are limited to, with all due respect I'd like to remind you how little we know about the universe, life, physics, space travel, etc.

Not saying Zombie said he was an expert, but just making a point to his post.

I'm no expert, but I believe I have some modicum of common sense and reasoning, which has led me to that conclusion. I could be wrong of course, that's just my two cents.

It's true there's a a lot we don't know about the universe, but that doesn't mean we have to jump to concluding alien visitations for phenomena we don't understand.

 

[Archie Moses]

I'm no expert, but I believe I have some modicum of common sense and reasoning, which has led me to that conclusion. I could be wrong of course, that's just my two cents.

It's true there's a a lot we don't know about the universe, but that doesn't mean we have to jump to concluding alien visitations for phenomena we don't understand.

I agree, man.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Lol.

Yeah, ok, bub.

I'm like, "Yeah, most UFOs aren't of alien origin and have explanations. That doesn't account for the ones that defy human technology and we have video evidence of. I can't say for certain it's not aliens, but it's definitely not humans. If it is, can you explain?"

You're like, "Are you joking? UFOs aren't inherently alien. Witness testimony is skewed." - Even though we have video evidence and witnesses from the most credible people on earth (I dare you to argue that.)

Me: "I agree, they're not all aliens. The ones that defy logic and clearly have technology humans don't have certainly raises questions though, if not, can you explain? Can we agree on that?

You: While avoiding my question and basically saying, "No, I can't offer an explanation for that. I'm not willing to meet in the middle, but I'll act like it's you."
Lol lol loz

G T F O H, Bub.

If that's the synopsis that you can offer, then your comprehension of what I'm saying, and what you are saying, is quite horrific.

It's been a pleasure, as always, Archibald.

 

[RandyForRubio]

FACTS: Aliens possess incredible technologies that we can't even fathom.

FACTS: Alien ships and their pilots are able to navigate space, but yet, when they arrive on Earth, they occasionally crash.

FACTS: Despite coming here for, well, forever, these alien crashes only happen way out in the boonies where nobody ever goes.

FACTS: The reason we don't have pictures is because of the vast conspiracy of governments to cover it up.




C'mon man. We've heard of alien visitations for hundreds of years. Yet, despite that, there's absolutely zero physical evidence of it. Nada. A quality picture? Not even one. A ship? A body? Nada. Nothing. Eyewitness testimony without physical evidence is, to be honest, very lacking. We live in a day and age where practically every person has a good handheld camera, and nothing.

I'm sorry, but I don't find it logical or rational to jump to aliens. Now, I believe in a lot of irrational and illogical things, so I'm not judging. I'm just stating my viewpoint.

And finally, no Archie, you aren't trying to meet anybody in the middle. You're putting forth a very obvious facade of so called acceptance that you might be wrong on some very obvious things, but you aren't looking to change your mind. Neither am I. I'm just honest about it.

 

[Archie Moses]

If that's the synopsis that you can offer, then your comprehension of what I'm saying, and what you are saying, is quite horrific.

It's been a pleasure, as always, Archibald.

That literally sums up our exchanges, but if it makes you feel better by saying my comprehension of what you're saying is horrific, that's cool, dude.

You were right though. Only one of us was willing to meet in the middle.

Tell me, those humans piloting those UFOs that stop and turn on a dime, how are they surviving all the G's?

 

[babe]

For sure, man. My OP post is about a crash just Southwest of the Dugway Proving Grounds.

It also doesn't take a genius to realize that UFOs are witnessed around and not air around military bases.

That said, it takes a moron with an ego to deny the UFO phenomenon or think all sightings are either false or have logical explanations.

"just Southwest of the Dugway Proving Grounds"......lol.

Do you know the Dugway military facilities are eighty miles by fifty miles of salt flats mostly but two entire mountain ranges, and that the airspace eighty miles south from there is a missile testing airspace where you can't build solar developments of any size. Then there's some more military land north of I-80 west of the Great Salt Lake.

West of the area is a looklikenothing place called Yelland Field, north of Ely, NV. Area 51 is a few mountain ranges southwest, and the whole desolate area is between Hill Field and Nellis.

I've seen missiles, huge bombers, dogfights with flares(I hope) not real ordnance, fighters going up steep canyons with hardly a hundred feet of clearance. I've seen what I imagine are holographic displays as well.

people with "logical explanations" of stuff are not always "morons". Sure the "Desert Research Station" is probably under contract with the military (air force at least) and certainly no agricultural research goes on there.

But the valley where the alleged ginormous UFO was buried, where the tunnel is supposed to run from the little run-down white house a mile north, does not look like anything to me. That valley is contiguous with Sevier Lake, a mostly dry salt bed.

The locals like to spin their yarns, and some of them are damn good at it. One of them, a hundred years ago, was struck by lightning than came in through the bathroom window, and lived to tell about it. Another was bit by a rattlesnake in the neck, and lived to tell about it. Some others spent quite a lot of time looking for an old Spanish silver mine that somehow just disappeared after it was seen the first time.....

If anything is buried in that salty muck, it's corroded now.... even if it was titanium to begin with. And the tunnel and craft are filled with salt muck as well. Nobody is going in or out of that damn little white house filled with rat poop.

So Colton's idea about gradualism, I'm sure, is consistent with socialist progressive history. We are only gradually being moved along as a culture or society towards awareness of the fabulous future our wise.... and alien-schooled.... elites know too damn well not to just spill out wholesale on the unwashed masses.

If we have found alloys or materials or technologies in space junk, I'm sure the military keeps it under wraps and only incrementally allows it to be used commercially.