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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Taking a dig at someone for their English skills when English is their second language is different than not understanding the point a person is making.
 
Jazzta said:
I’ll take that you hope someone other than Biden is the nominee. I do wish that the electoral process was “closer” to the people. The current process just feels alienating imho.
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Just so I can understand what your saying here, is it the Democratic primary that feels alienating? If so what about the primary process should be closer to the people?
 
Zombie said:
Just so I can understand what your saying here, is it the Democratic primary that feels alienating? If so what about the primary process should be closer to the people?
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Well, just a thought that I had, imagine if the people had to vote for a candidate from each party. I’m curious what the outcome would be.
 
Jazzta said:
Well, just a thought that I had, imagine if the people had to vote for a candidate from each party. I’m curious what the outcome would be.
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In some states you can vote in both primaries if you want to. I'm not sure how forcing people to vote for someone from both parties would be enforced, or what kind of impact it would have. Seems like a pretty blatant violation of voting rights, and/or free speech if you believe free speech extends to the ballot box.
 
Gameface said:
Taking a dig at someone for their English skills when English is their second language is different than not understanding the point a person is making.
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It's hard to tell when the responses are so dismissive. Honestly, I struggle to understand what he says most of the time so I apologize if it's a language barrier issue or just him being a troll Edit: Or me just needing to read his posts more better and be less confrontational. Communication is a two-way street. Given the amount of trolling lately, I'll admit my patience has been lacking and I've thought about taking an hiatus from here. I usually try to be patient and give people the benefit of the doubt. So if I jumped the gun on that then I'm sorry. But it seemed like his ******* response warranted an ******* answer, which was to assume the worst about his language skills.
 
Jazzta said:
I’ll take that you hope someone other than Biden is the nominee. I do wish that the electoral process was “closer” to the people. The current process just feels alienating imho.
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I think I've been pretty clear about the fact that Trump is a special case.

I mean I absolutely abhor his politics. Sure. That's in compartment A in my brain.

But then there's his incompetence. His recklessness. His selfishness. His cluelessness. That's in compartment B.

Compartment B is why I could never vote for him under any circumstances. Not under any circumstances. And why I will vote for the best possibility to get him out of office, regardless of what that other option is, because I don't see any other options that enter compartment B at all.

I've found it just as baffling when people say "Well Pence is just as bad." Yes, in compartment A Pence is just as bad. But that's politics. I can absolutely live with a politician whose positions I don't like being President. What I can't live with is a politician who fills compartment B with the things Trump does.

I hope that makes some kind of sense.
 
Jazzta said:
There has to be another way though, in 2016 we got Trump and Hillary shoved down as options. Is that really the best the US had to offer?
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To be honest, and I'd say this to people who were upset about how the last D primary ended up as well, you need to come to terms with the idea that there are a lot of people with different candidate preferences than you.

Biden isn't a handpicked candidate, he's leading in the polls because millions of people want him to be president. I disagree with them, but him leading the pack isn't due to some flaw in the primary format. Votes haven't even been cast yet, so I remain confused about what it is exactly you are complaining about.
 
Gameface said:
I think I've been pretty clear about the fact that Trump is a special case.

I mean I absolutely abhor his politics. Sure. That's in compartment A in my brain.

But then there's his incompetence. His recklessness. His selfishness. His cluelessness. That's in compartment B.

Compartment B is why I could never vote for him under any circumstances. Not under any circumstances. And why I will vote for the best possibility to get him out of office, regardless of what that other option is, because I don't see any other options that enter compartment B at all.

I've found it just as baffling when people say "Well Pence is just as bad." Yes, in compartment A Pence is just as bad. But that's politics. I can absolutely live with a politician whose positions I don't like being President. What I can't live with is a politician who fills compartment B with the things Trump does.

I hope that makes some kind of sense.
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I agree about Trump, I’m just not on the “anyone else will do” train. But I hear ya about Trump.
 
Jazzta said:
There has to be another way though, in 2016 we got Trump and Hillary shoved down as options. Is that really the best the US had to offer?
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I feel like the way you and @Zombie are discussing things is really good now (@Zombie did a good job of working through this and I regret failing to do this) and I see that had a big hand in escalating things today. The lack of respect I showed was not cool. I apologize for being an *** earlier. Sorry to everyone else who had to read this crap today.

PM just sent. Unsure if @Jazzta has me blocked and if blocked profiles can still receive PMs. So if that's the case someone else tell @Jazzta that I'm sorry. I'll take a break for a few days...
 
The Thriller said:
Let’s not overreact here, American democracy is threatened by Trump and needs to be strengthened by certain reforms. But the entire system doesn’t need to be blown up. The cynicism one reads on libertarian and far right/left message boards these is astounding.
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Ok, I see this thrown about, but it makes no sense. Trump is threatening democracy? How?
We still have elections. People can still vote. Trump hasn't done anything to stop that....well, unless you think that him wanting to stop non-Americans from voting.

Hilary said that Trump would not accept the results of the 2016 election. Well, Hillary is the one who lost and she's still btching about it. Seems she can't accept anything, but she isn't doing anything to stop the next election from happening.
As far as I can tell, nobody is.
 
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