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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

colton said:
There is tremendous evidence of a quid pro quo. But there doesn't even need to be. Simply ASKING for a foreign government to help a campaign is against the law, even if there isn't a quid pro quo attached. There is also evidence of obstruction of justice and obstruction of Congress. And abuse of power. Etc.
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Not to mention the abuse of orange makeup. Impeach and remove on that alone.
 
fishonjazz said:
Well ya, I hate Trump. And yes he is a horrible person. Of that there's no debate.
Being partisan means following a party. Hope that clears it up for you. Thought you were smarter than that to be honest. Not the first time I have been wrong though. Oh well.

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Uh, ok.

If you are going to resort to name calling and passive aggressiveness then you might want to use words correctly. I'm not getting sucked into another one of your convoluted semantics troll jobs, so here's a link to settle it for you:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/partisan

I don't see what axe you are trying to grind here anyway. I feel like I walked into the middle of something and dont know what's been going on.
 
colton said:
There is tremendous evidence of a quid pro quo.
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Whose testimony? Sondland's? I don't believe much that he says. The national security beaurocrats who are mad at Trump for getting in the way of what they wanted accomplished? Way too much conjecture from them.

colton said:
But there doesn't even need to be. Simply ASKING for a foreign government to help a campaign is against the law, even if there isn't a quid pro quo attached.
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No it isn't. What law did Trump break?

colton said:
There is also evidence of obstruction of justice and obstruction of Congress. And abuse of power. Etc.
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Let them draft that up in their articles of impeachment and this will go down as Bill Clinton 2.0. Impeachment for his actions during impeachment over the impeachment process, and not impeachment on the grounds of why they set out to impeach. Impeachment is the ends, let's get there regardless right?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Let them draft that up in their articles of impeachment and this will go down as Bill Clinton 2.0. Impeachment for his actions during impeachment over the impeachment process, and not impeachment on the grounds of why they set out to impeach. Impeachment is the ends, let's get there regardless right?
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This argument is bogus. Setting aside whether you believe Trump should ultimately be impeached over Ukraine, the impeachment process is explicitly laid out in the constitution for congress to provide oversight over the president. Trump doesn't just get to exempt himself from it, unless your belief is that the president can ignore the constitution when it's convenient for him.

The idea that we shouldn't take presidential misconduct as seriously when it occurs during his impeachment as we do if it occurs outside of it is completely wrong-headed. If anything it should be taken more seriously.
 
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idestroyedthetoilet said:
No it isn't. What law did Trump break?
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Multiple credible legal analysts have stated this. I'm willing to look it up if you're willing to say that it will change your mind. So, how about it? If merely asking a foreign government to interfere in an election is a crime, will it change your mind about whether Trump should be impeached? If not I won't waste my time.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Uh, ok.

If you are going to resort to name calling and passive aggressiveness then you might want to use words correctly. I'm not getting sucked into another one of your convoluted semantics troll jobs, so here's a link to settle it for you:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/partisan

I don't see what axe you are trying to grind here anyway. I feel like I walked into the middle of something and dont know what's been going on.
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Exactly. So like I said. I'm not partisan. I don't have a firm adherence to a party. I hate trump. That doesn't equal partisan. I hate Ace of Base too that doesn't make me partisan. Hating a particular person has nothing to do with partisanship.

I simply said I'm not partisan and then you suddenly starting grinding some axe or some ****.

In conclusion, I was right and you were wrong. Carry on

Oh and you were also wrong about me resorting to name calling. I actually said I thought you were smart. But then you thought that me hating Trump equalled being partisan, which the definition of partisan you provided proves is incorrect. So you simply weren't as smart as I thought you were. That doesn't equal name calling.
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colton said:
Multiple credible legal analysts have stated this. I'm willing to look it up if you're willing to say that it will change your mind. So, how about it? If merely asking a foreign government to interfere in an election is a crime, will it change your mind about whether Trump should be impeached? If not I won't waste my time.
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You honestly think that Trump is the biggest issue this nation faces when we have Biden leading the opposition and so little voting turnout?
 
Jazzta said:
You honestly think that Trump is the biggest issue this nation faces when we have Biden leading the opposition and so little voting turnout?
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Yes. By a landslide. Trump is a million times worse than biden.

Quick, make a list of things that suck about Biden. I guarantee the list I make about trump will be much much bigger.
Btw, I hope Biden doesn't win the Democratic nomination.
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idestroyedthetoilet said:
Whose testimony? Sondland's? I don't believe much that he says. The national security beaurocrats who are mad at Trump for getting in the way of what they wanted accomplished? Way too much conjecture from them.
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I'm pretty sure we've been over this before. But if someone won't open his eyes you can't prove to him that the sky is blue.
 
fishonjazz said:
Yes. By a landslide. Trump is a million times worse than biden.

Quick, make a list of things that suck about Biden. I guarantee the list I make about trump will be much much bigger.

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He’s a slouchy old angry man, with signs of age affecting his speech. In bed with the Ukranian mafia. Groper. Hypocrite. Antiamerican. A snake who’s sole purpose is to steer the debate in one direction, that of containing those who advocate for moving the Democratic party away from pharmaceutical companies and military industrial interests. He has no business being on that stage and I repudiate him every time he opens his foul mouth.
 
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