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I don't recall who but someone was vehemently arguing that Niang was not a threat from 3.
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I don't recall who but someone was vehemently arguing that Niang was not a threat from 3.
Uhh just read the post I quoted...
jom2003
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com'on now.
of course niang wasn't a threat from 3... until now.
he was 1 for 12 from deep in his first NBA season. then went on to miss all of his 3 pt attempts his second season.
he finally shot 40% from 3 last year, on extremely low volume, and was plainly awful during playoffs.
he's been on fire of late and as a jazz fan, i certainly hope he keep it up, which would be difficult since opponents now will be less inclined to leave him open on purpose
but don't pretend by looking at his shooting numbers from his early years, one can make conclusion that he's some kinda threat from deep since he was barely on any other team's scouting report.
of course niang wasn't a threat from 3... until now.
he was 1 for 12 from deep in his first NBA season. then went on to miss all of his 3 pt attempts his second season.
he finally shot 40% from 3 last year, on extremely low volume, and was plainly awful during playoffs.
he's been on fire of late and as a jazz fan, i certainly hope he keep it up, which would be difficult since opponents now will be less inclined to leave him open on purpose
but don't pretend by looking at his shooting numbers from his early years, one can make conclusion that he's some kinda threat from deep since he was barely on any other team's scouting report.
The argument was that he didn’t shoot enough threes to be concerned about. Which was arguably true. I don’t believe I have seen a person say he’s not a good shooter.
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This. He has been a great shooter this season. The biggest thing imo is that he isn't very good on defense and should rebound way better for his size.
Bingo. The majority (if not all) of my posts regarding wanting Niang out of the rotation were within the context of
A) He was providing little to no assists, steals, rebounds, blocks, deflections, scoring within the arc, etc. He was only providing 1 made three on average per game and only taking around 2 per game. And if that's what he providing he's simply not valuable on the floor because our bench wasn't good enough to carry a specialist.
B) The Davis/Green/Niang combination wasn't working and something needed to change there.
Obviously if Niang is going take 5 or 6 threes per game and make 3 of them on an improved bench then it's a different story.
Everything has context.
jumpin bean
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Was listening to a trailblazer podcast and they were mentioning how they would like Ed Davis back. Who on their roster could we get for him
The better question is who do we want for him. The answer is nobody.
For Ed Davis? I'd probably take Skal.
Blazers are gonna trade for Kevin Love. It just makes too much sense not to happen. Right? They are 16-23, they are six games out of the 7 seed, and they are in a tight seven team race for the 8 seed. One season after being in the WCF. They are capped out with few ways to improve the roster.
It's a situation where they are either going to completely blow it up or they are goimg to make a big move and attempt to make one last run with this core. And I don't get the sense that they want to blow it up.
Whiteside for Love straight up works. Cleveland would save a ton of money. Blazers could throw in picks if necessary. Love fits next to a healthy Nurkic, Whiteside doesn't.
Blazers regroup with Lillard/McCollum/Love/Nurkic next season when they get everyone healthy.
I don't think that really makes them a contender. But I think they're desperate. And it just makes so much sense.
It's a situation where they are either going to completely blow it up or they are goimg to make a big move and attempt to make one last run with this core. And I don't get the sense that they want to blow it up.
Whiteside for Love straight up works. Cleveland would save a ton of money. Blazers could throw in picks if necessary. Love fits next to a healthy Nurkic, Whiteside doesn't.
Blazers regroup with Lillard/McCollum/Love/Nurkic next season when they get everyone healthy.
I don't think that really makes them a contender. But I think they're desperate. And it just makes so much sense.
jumpin bean
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Is Zach Collins from Gonzaga any good or salary like. I see he is a power forward
Blazers aren't going to give us Zach Collins. But yeah, he's pretty good.
lmfao
Niang was a 4 year college player who shot 38% from 3 for his career.
In 50 G-League games he was a 43% 3pt shooter.
In the NBA he's a career 41% shooter in 123 games.
Stop trying to semantics yall's way into not looking dumb.
The guy has been on the scouting report as a shooter his entire career. It's the NBA, they aren't morons and know how to scout players.
In 50 G-League games he was a 43% 3pt shooter.
In the NBA he's a career 41% shooter in 123 games.
Stop trying to semantics yall's way into not looking dumb.
The guy has been on the scouting report as a shooter his entire career. It's the NBA, they aren't morons and know how to scout players.
They certainly would not. What makes you say such nonsense?
This is so dumb DL and JZ would never think to think of this and your reasoning for the Jazz is extremely backwards.
And Conley is better than all of them...
No one who makes 5 million a year has a no trade clause.
The only thing the Jazz should trade Davis for is an expiring contract. Asking for anything more is unrealistic.
jom2003
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as if shooting 40% from deep at college and g-league is all you need to be a shooter at NBA level?
just look it up why don't you? shooting 40% in college, 50 g-league games, how many players do you think is gonna come up? and how many of those players you think actually made it to the NBA? like 1%? you think nba scout is gonna respect that? jimmer fredette is a fricking mvp outside of the nba, and how much of those do you think show up on other team's scouting report when he played for phoenix last year?
scouts know how to scout players, then explain why players intentionally left him wide open?
it's not hard to see in those highlights that players hardly paid any respect to niang's shot. a well respected nba shooter simply would not consistently get left wide open like this.
in fact, houston intentionally rotated off him to get one extra defender to help double team donovan in last season't playoff, which was one of the many things that killed us.
and as he keep knocking down those wide open 3s, i'm sure the defense will make it harder and harder for him in the nba.(which could be a good thing for us as it opens up for the space) but you'd be so damn naive to think that nba shooting is all about knocking down those uncontested practice jumpers. all i can tell you is that despite niang's recent hot streak, he's still got some way to go as a proven shooter at nba level, and i certainly wish he get there.