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And Conley is better than all of them...
No one who makes 5 million a year has a no trade clause.
The only thing the Jazz should trade Davis for is an expiring contract. Asking for anything more is unrealistic.
jom2003
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as if shooting 40% from deep at college and g-league is all you need to be a shooter at NBA level?
just look it up why don't you? shooting 40% in college, 50 g-league games, how many players do you think is gonna come up? and how many of those players you think actually made it to the NBA? like 1%? you think nba scout is gonna respect that? jimmer fredette is a fricking mvp outside of the nba, and how much of those do you think show up on other team's scouting report when he played for phoenix last year?
scouts know how to scout players, then explain why players intentionally left him wide open?
it's not hard to see in those highlights that players hardly paid any respect to niang's shot. a well respected nba shooter simply would not consistently get left wide open like this.
in fact, houston intentionally rotated off him to get one extra defender to help double team donovan in last season't playoff, which was one of the many things that killed us.
and as he keep knocking down those wide open 3s, i'm sure the defense will make it harder and harder for him in the nba.(which could be a good thing for us as it opens up for the space) but you'd be so damn naive to think that nba shooting is all about knocking down those uncontested practice jumpers. all i can tell you is that despite niang's recent hot streak, he's still got some way to go as a proven shooter at nba level, and i certainly wish he get there.
as if shooting 40% from deep at college and g-league is all you need to be a shooter at NBA level?
just look it up why don't you? shooting 40% in college, 50 g-league games, how many players do you think is gonna come up? and how many of those players you think actually made it to the NBA? like 1%? you think nba scout is gonna respect that? jimmer fredette is a fricking mvp outside of the nba, and how much of those do you think show up on other team's scouting report when he played for phoenix last year?
scouts know how to scout players, then explain why players intentionally left him wide open?
it's not hard to see in those highlights that players hardly paid any respect to niang's shot. a well respected nba shooter simply would not consistently get left wide open like this.
in fact, houston intentionally rotated off him to get one extra defender to help double team donovan in last season't playoff, which was one of the many things that killed us.
and as he keep knocking down those wide open 3s, i'm sure the defense will make it harder and harder for him in the nba.(which could be a good thing for us as it opens up for the space) but you'd be so damn naive to think that nba shooting is all about knocking down those uncontested practice jumpers. all i can tell you is that despite niang's recent hot streak, he's still got some way to go as a proven shooter at nba level, and i certainly wish he get there.
I know Jimmer is on the scouting report as a shooter.
Niang is a proven shooter at all levels. It's basketball. Someone has to be left open when you defend a NBA team that has good players.
And yes, respected shooters get uncontested looks all the time.
Bojan, a guy I'm sure you wouldn't be stupid enough to argue with me about being a shooting threat, has half his three point attempts (this year) come as "wide open" attempts (more than 6 feet of space).
Bojan, a guy I'm sure you wouldn't be stupid enough to argue with me about being a shooting threat, has half his three point attempts (this year) come as "wide open" attempts (more than 6 feet of space).
And half those gifs were in fast-break/semi-transition or offensive rebounds.
No one is sagging off Niang to let him shoot. They are rotating off him to stop dunks at the rim on rolls or it's the blender.
No one is sagging off Niang to let him shoot. They are rotating off him to stop dunks at the rim on rolls or it's the blender.
jom2003
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there's a distinct difference between being set up for open looks, and being left wide open by opponents intentionally due to lack of respect.
not sure how much you've watched those garbage minutes in which niang played during his early nba career but saying niang previously wasn't regarded by other teams as a shooting threat at all was not an incorrect statement due to his lack of production/inconsistency.
but that certainly has changed due to his recent hot streak.
not sure how much you've watched those garbage minutes in which niang played during his early nba career but saying niang previously wasn't regarded by other teams as a shooting threat at all was not an incorrect statement due to his lack of production/inconsistency.
but that certainly has changed due to his recent hot streak.
jom2003
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sagging off only applies to players that had zero 3pt ability. niang of course wasn't ben simmons in terms of shooting. heck, even rubio would see a defender on him when he attempt a 3 pointer, but does that necessarily qualify him as a shooting threat?
in semi-transition/rebounding situations when defense has to collapse, players would be more willing to leave their opposing players who they'd consider less of a threat, with niang being in that category(again, that is before his recent hot streak). just how often would you see bojan, joe, or korver last season being left open like that? lot of times they'd have to make runs offball to get away from their defenders for shots, and you hardly see Niang doing that sort of work because all he gotta do is to stay at one spot and over time his defender would leave him open.
jom2003
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yeah, a shooter that nba teams barely cared about. because his 0.8 makes per game hardy makes a difference. thanks for validating my point.
Bojan is left open all the time....
jom2003
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because bojan was being set up by his teammates with tons of screens, while niang was being left open as his defenders left him intentionally. did you even look at those gifs i posted? defenders barely cared to cover niang when he's about to shoot. houston even left him open all by himself in the corner so they could double team donovan. could you imagine them executing that same play with bojan being in that corner? just by that play alone, what kinda scouting profile do you think houston has on niang?
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