Coronavirus
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Yeah, multiple countries are on the verge of shutting down several sectors of their economies. China, South Korea, now Italy so far.
Apparently, 7,600 people returned to San Francisco from China after celebrating the New Year in the past few weeks. They've been asked to isolate themselves at home in case they have the virus. Who knows if they'll comply. These people weren't from Wuhan. If they were, they would have been quarantined.
That's just San Francisco. Now consider Seattle, Vancouver, San Jose, Los Angeles, and other major cities.
That's just San Francisco. Now consider Seattle, Vancouver, San Jose, Los Angeles, and other major cities.
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Caronavirus Is just another Democratic hoax, just like Russia Russia Russia and climate change. It’s really under control and there’s nothing to worry about. Dims are just tryin to use it to spook the markets...
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I actually agree with Trump on that second tweet.
If trump asked for more money then Democratic leaders would probably say he asked for too much.
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If trump asked for more money then Democratic leaders would probably say he asked for too much.
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So, Trump is the worst because he publicly minimizes the pandemic, but where are you guys ever going to diss Xi for far more extreme minimization tactics, or denials of his incompetence, with outright Xi glorification propaganda and China glorification propaganda claiming only a benevolenrt all-wise Emporer….. uh... Great Leader..... could deal with the problem so efficiently????
I thought the temp head of HSA deserves to be canned for his failure to answer the critical questions in the hearings. What do you mean you don't know?
I agree this is a critical test of the Trump presidency, but considering how he has been hammer all along, and opposed by political hacks in the bureaucracy, the dems share the blame here. We cannot afford to hamstring the President because we need an effective President who can act when necessary in a national emergency.
The fact that we do not have an effective border or even effective management of travelers coming in through shipping---whether container smuggled human cargo or cruise liners---- I lay on the dems and the stupid DumpTrumpsters. You are to blame for your part here.
I thought the temp head of HSA deserves to be canned for his failure to answer the critical questions in the hearings. What do you mean you don't know?
I agree this is a critical test of the Trump presidency, but considering how he has been hammer all along, and opposed by political hacks in the bureaucracy, the dems share the blame here. We cannot afford to hamstring the President because we need an effective President who can act when necessary in a national emergency.
The fact that we do not have an effective border or even effective management of travelers coming in through shipping---whether container smuggled human cargo or cruise liners---- I lay on the dems and the stupid DumpTrumpsters. You are to blame for your part here.
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Xi sucks!
(There, are you happy?)
2 wrongs don't make a right btw
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So, aside from my ignored posts above..... I've done some catching up on this.+
In summary, I believe this will be a pandemic. Look at Imperial China with all the global operations across Africa, and outposts in critical port facilities, and the denials and lying China has been putting out, and the refusal to let our scientists have access to study the affected outbreak areas. It is China's baby..... Xi's baby.
But Trump should take stronger measures immediately. People will be trying to come here to escape the pandemic, or at least to get medical attention, streaming across our open borders and inadequate customs and immigration checks.
But the virus itself is not that severe. It does, evidently, contain engineered features created in human laboratory settings, which increase it's lethality. Unprecedented features not seen in nature before.
It has a very strong "hook" which makes it more persistent, but slower moving in the host. It is transmitted in air and fluid. It is severe when it gets to lungs, a very severe pneumonia.
But it is susceptible to ordinary measures for disinfection.
UV light, commonly used for disinfection commercially, will reduce transmission in air or wet surfaces. UV light works by producing ozone from oxygen in the air. Common household cleaners like Chlorox or any other brand of chlorine-based bleach or disinfectant will work.
As I take it, treatment now is very stupid. You put the patient in a room to isolate him and let the virus go unchecked..... you kidding me????? That's crazy.
The stupid medical treatment in on the largely democrat-progressive political wonks in management at the CDC.... Obama's wonks, which dems have not allowed Trump to replace.
The stupid medical treatment is also on the "progressive" AMA medical establish and Big Pharma political lobbyists/progressive wonks who focus on vaccination and pills rather than preventative medicine and health practices.
OK, in summary, if you want to help yourselves, spread the word to your friends. Go buy some ordinary bleach, Dilute it 1 to 9 to make a gallon at a time. Get yourselves one of those air freshener plug ins and fill it with your bleach solution, the little bubbler will put out a very light amount of chlorine, not as much as the ordinary swimming pool and not toxic to you, but enough to destroy any airborne coronavirus. Use the solution to wipe sinks, toilet seats, put it in your dishwasher, a cup or so, with the detergent.
Put the little bubblers in each room of your home or work place, put one in your car.
Get one of the inhalers used by allergy folks, or set up your vape tool with perhaps a lighter solution of bleach, and use it when around other people, but not too much. If your lungs start to feel the burn, back off.
This whole pandemic, and the economic impact, is on everyone who has pushed the global agenda, favoring dependence on cheap labor overseas and reducing labor expense in the USA, which still has the most productive and skilled workforce in the world.
In summary, I believe this will be a pandemic. Look at Imperial China with all the global operations across Africa, and outposts in critical port facilities, and the denials and lying China has been putting out, and the refusal to let our scientists have access to study the affected outbreak areas. It is China's baby..... Xi's baby.
But Trump should take stronger measures immediately. People will be trying to come here to escape the pandemic, or at least to get medical attention, streaming across our open borders and inadequate customs and immigration checks.
But the virus itself is not that severe. It does, evidently, contain engineered features created in human laboratory settings, which increase it's lethality. Unprecedented features not seen in nature before.
It has a very strong "hook" which makes it more persistent, but slower moving in the host. It is transmitted in air and fluid. It is severe when it gets to lungs, a very severe pneumonia.
But it is susceptible to ordinary measures for disinfection.
UV light, commonly used for disinfection commercially, will reduce transmission in air or wet surfaces. UV light works by producing ozone from oxygen in the air. Common household cleaners like Chlorox or any other brand of chlorine-based bleach or disinfectant will work.
As I take it, treatment now is very stupid. You put the patient in a room to isolate him and let the virus go unchecked..... you kidding me????? That's crazy.
The stupid medical treatment in on the largely democrat-progressive political wonks in management at the CDC.... Obama's wonks, which dems have not allowed Trump to replace.
The stupid medical treatment is also on the "progressive" AMA medical establish and Big Pharma political lobbyists/progressive wonks who focus on vaccination and pills rather than preventative medicine and health practices.
OK, in summary, if you want to help yourselves, spread the word to your friends. Go buy some ordinary bleach, Dilute it 1 to 9 to make a gallon at a time. Get yourselves one of those air freshener plug ins and fill it with your bleach solution, the little bubbler will put out a very light amount of chlorine, not as much as the ordinary swimming pool and not toxic to you, but enough to destroy any airborne coronavirus. Use the solution to wipe sinks, toilet seats, put it in your dishwasher, a cup or so, with the detergent.
Put the little bubblers in each room of your home or work place, put one in your car.
Get one of the inhalers used by allergy folks, or set up your vape tool with perhaps a lighter solution of bleach, and use it when around other people, but not too much. If your lungs start to feel the burn, back off.
This whole pandemic, and the economic impact, is on everyone who has pushed the global agenda, favoring dependence on cheap labor overseas and reducing labor expense in the USA, which still has the most productive and skilled workforce in the world.
I have a nephew who is practical the CEO of one of Xi's companies in Shanghai, the maker of toilet paper and Kleenex and paper towels, and a sister in law from the main affected area in China, with her family there. One of her relatives, a medical professional, has been disappeared for speaking out on stuff. Xi is ordinary, he has fallen in love with his job much the way you have, I assume, and has chosen the easy way forward, the way that requires less effort and less thought, and more reliance on "the way things are" and the people around him.
If Trump were just what Xi is, I would not be happy with Trump, for sure. I might hope Trump means well in shaking up our Establishment, and unless he really does make his own Establishment the same kind of stupidity as Rockefellers', I guess I won't be very enthusiastic about replacing him. I'm a "devil you know" kind of guy who prefers something understandable to something unknown, like most DumpTrumpsters who just want their old way back again.
I don't really believe the Covid-19 has been all the rabid fear-mongers have imagined, with tens of thousands of dead being burned in incinerators being run around the clock with hundreds of "portable" incinerators being operated in the streets, with stacks of corpses piled high, but how can anyone really know anything when the government is in public denial mode, and proven liars at that.
It is important to me that Trump should not really be in denial, believing "We've got this under control". The HSA guy who proved he knew nothing in the hearing yesterday has got to be canned. We need to replace our heads of the CDC and HSA, and to fully staff whatever institutional organizations are relevant, with an attitude of extreme measures.
Xi, and other heads of state, have got to let the scientists in, and get the true body counts, and we have to greatly expand testing, and treat the nonsymptomatic carriers effectively. It might be less dangerous than the SARS virus, but we just do not know, yet.
It is not adequate to put the vaccine on a conservative development track. Australia is already reporting an effective vaccine. The conservative track takes the time to thoroughly check safety issues, but an effective test on safety issues can be done much more rapidly, though with no absolute assurances, just common sense measures. We could have vaccines in production within a few months. We should do that.
When I live in China. Xi is a terrible and autocratic, but has little effect on my life.