COVID-19 - How worried are you?

[LogGrad98]

Phub traffic is also correlated with increased TP consumption.

I think it's Kleenex consumption actually. Also an increase in sock sales.

 

[fishonjazz]

So we observed our first fight this weekend. A couple of guys went at each other over the last pack of paper towels at a Walmart. One dude knocked the other down, the wives were screaming, ultimately employees broke it up and someone else entirely got the paper towels. It was surreal.

This is horrible.
I would have tried to intervene no doubt. I am quite good at breaking up fights. I have done it so many times. I have a knack for it for some reason.

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[NAOS]

Congrats on scoring paper towels.

Lol

 

[DasJazz]

Uh, yes you have. Multiple times you have. Your have said it's the common cold, which it literally is not.

Saying it's just like the common cold still holds true, as a matter of fact, the cold/flu virus is proven to kill more people on average than this thing. We aren't even in "drop in the pan" status with the death rate with this virus, so sorry if I don't go full panic mode (which is what is helping cause hysteria).

So I stand by that and still urge everyone to use common sense and be smart about cleanliness.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is horrible.
I would have tried to intervene no doubt. I am quite good at breaking up fights. I have done it so many times. I have a knack for it for some reason.

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Someday if I meet certain JazzFanz irl I want you there to calm things down.

My dad owned a bar for years... one of his best buds was like 6’6” cowboy handle bar mustache ... he broke up every fight with the same line... “you guys can fight but I get the winner” people would immediately chill. Big Joe Bailey was his name... super calm and I wondered how many dudes he’d actually knocked out.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I get the panic here I myself got out ahead of things by a week or so... but if we are really planning on shutting down businesses for 2-3 months the damage to the economy will be catastrophic and I’m not sure it changes much except the rate at which this thing accelerates.

I have zero answers... none but at some point the better safe than sorry saying is kinda untrue... no? 2 weeks is reasonable... 2 months seems absurd. I’m not saying like start basketball up again but maybe like open restaurants and schools and encourage the high risk individuals to stay home.

 

[fishonjazz]

I get the panic here I myself got out ahead of things by a week or so... but if we are really planning on shutting down businesses for 2-3 months the damage to the economy will be catastrophic and I’m not sure it changes much except the rate at which this thing accelerates.

I have zero answers... none but at some point the better safe than sorry saying is kinda untrue... no? 2 weeks is reasonable... 2 months seems absurd. I’m not saying like start basketball up again but maybe like open restaurants and schools and encourage the high risk individuals to stay home.

I agree. Some of the solutions could end up being worse than the problem.

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[LogGrad98]

I agree. Some of the solutions could end up being worse than the problem.

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No doubt. It makes me think of my cancer treatment. I nearly died twice, both times basically from the chemo, not from the cancer itself.

 

[mellow]

This might be fake news, but it is fun.

I work with a guy who has a bunch of family Mexico. His family is telling him the public service announcements on the radio are telling people Corona Virus starts in the back of your throat but can be killed by alcohol. They are encouraging people to drink alcohol every half-hour.

I think the science is suspect, but think the USA might benefit from such an announcement.

 

[NAOS]

Saying it's just like the common cold still holds true, as a matter of fact, the cold/flu virus is proven to kill more people on average than this thing. We aren't even in "drop in the pan" status with the death rate with this virus, so sorry if I don't go full panic mode (which is what is helping cause hysteria).

So I stand by that and still urge everyone to use common sense and be smart about cleanliness.

:banghead emoji:

 

[fishonjazz]

This might be fake news, but it is fun.

I work with a guy who has a bunch of family Mexico. His family is telling him the public service announcements on the radio are telling people Corona Virus starts in the back of your throat but can be killed by alcohol. They are encouraging people to drink alcohol every half-hour.

I think the science is suspect, but think the USA might benefit from such an announcement.

That's a horrible idea. Horrible advice

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[infection]

This might be fake news, but it is fun.

I work with a guy who has a bunch of family Mexico. His family is telling him the public service announcements on the radio are telling people Corona Virus starts in the back of your throat but can be killed by alcohol. They are encouraging people to drink alcohol every half-hour.

I think the science is suspect, but think the USA might benefit from such an announcement.

Sounds like fake news, unless it’s parody.

On the flip side, Mexico only has about 50 cases and no reported deaths yet. When you look at the world distribution of cases, can make a decent argument on climate and spread.

 

[Beer]

So here is the deal. Old people and sick people are supposed to die. It's what nature intended. Forcing the entire country to shut down seems asinine. In a perfect world it would be anyone over 60 is quarantined. Smokers are quarantined. Those with chronic lung diseases are quarantined. The rest of the populace goes on about their life as usual. Herd immunity is built up, old and unhealthy people die at a faster rate than normal but at a slower rate than no quarantine.

Shutting down everything will be a disaster for a long long time. Don't take my word for it though. I just have a PHD in Infectious Diseases.


kidding, I don't.

 

[NAOS]

I get the panic here I myself got out ahead of things by a week or so... but if we are really planning on shutting down businesses for 2-3 months the damage to the economy will be catastrophic and I’m not sure it changes much except the rate at which this thing accelerates.

I have zero answers... none but at some point the better safe than sorry saying is kinda untrue... no? 2 weeks is reasonable... 2 months seems absurd. I’m not saying like start basketball up again but maybe like open restaurants and schools and encourage the high risk individuals to stay home.

This is why I voted “5” (but referenced the need for government). My hair isn’t on fire over this, and I have a long-angle lens on history that incorporates this kind of thing as a natural (and, in some sense, unavoidable) event, but there hasn’t been any way for me to project this kind of “middle-ground caution” within my professional or personal communities. It feels like everything went from “need for containment?? haha”, to “holy **** let’s shut everything down” in about 48 hours. And of course this is basically what happened across the nation.

We obviously had, and continue to have, a big Culture Problem in terms of responding to this kind of crisis. And there are ample reasons to think this problem would have reared its head in a number of different kinds of crises. That’s currently the deepest pit of worry that I have, since the politics of responding to disaster figure to be more and more prevalent as the climate crisis thickens. And, we’re really just at square one when it comes to dealing with one another through this, and having a clear vision of what our government should be doing.

rant over.

 

[mellow]

So here is the deal. Old people and sick people are supposed to die. It's what nature intended. Forcing the entire country to shut down seems asinine. In a perfect world it would be anyone over 60 is quarantined. Smokers are quarantined. Those with chronic lung diseases are quarantined. The rest of the populace goes on about their life as usual. Herd immunity is built up, old and unhealthy people die at a faster rate than normal but at a slower rate than no quarantine.

Shutting down everything will be a disaster for a long long time. Don't take my word for it though. I just have a PHD in Infectious Diseases.


kidding, I don't.

What you say is true. Old people and sick people die. And they will die with Covid-19.

It is also true that people poop, and buy toilet paper. As we witnessed last week the system of people buying tp can easily be overwhelmed in a run, leaving others at risk of being out of tp. That is what they are trying to prevent with covid. A run on hospitals by the old, the sick, and the others who get a severe case could collapse the medical system for all of us.

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

I get the panic here I myself got out ahead of things by a week or so... but if we are really planning on shutting down businesses for 2-3 months the damage to the economy will be catastrophic and I’m not sure it changes much except the rate at which this thing accelerates.

I have zero answers... none but at some point the better safe than sorry saying is kinda untrue... no? 2 weeks is reasonable... 2 months seems absurd. I’m not saying like start basketball up again but maybe like open restaurants and schools and encourage the high risk individuals to stay home.

This is my feeling too. I think we all have two responsibilities:

1- Social distancing to slow the spread, primarily to keep from overburdening hospitals.
2- Don't panic, and don't engage in creating panic (which too many people are doing in this thread).

This is a terrible situation, and there will be a significant loss of life, mostly concentrated on elderly and people with pre-existing conditions. However, we can and will get through this.

 

[candrew]

This might be fake news, but it is fun.

I work with a guy who has a bunch of family Mexico. His family is telling him the public service announcements on the radio are telling people Corona Virus starts in the back of your throat but can be killed by alcohol. They are encouraging people to drink alcohol every half-hour.

I think the science is suspect, but think the USA might benefit from such an announcement.

That's exactly what the Soviet government told people to do who were exposed to radiation during Chernobyl. Drink half a glass of Vodka every six hours. This way when all your skin turns into liquified goo you won't care all that much.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is why I voted “5” (but referenced the need for government). My hair isn’t on fire over this, and I have a long-angle lens on history that incorporates this kind of thing as a natural (and, in some sense, unavoidable) event, but there hasn’t been any way for me to project this kind of “middle-ground caution” within my professional or personal communities. It feels like everything went from “need for containment?? haha”, to “holy **** let’s shut everything down” in about 48 hours. And of course this is basically what happened across the nation.

We obviously had, and continue to have, a big Culture Problem in terms of responding to this kind of crisis. And there are ample reasons to think this problem would have reared its head in a number of different kinds of crises. That’s currently the deepest pit of worry that I have, since the politics of responding to disaster figure to be more and more prevalent as the climate crisis thickens. And, we’re really just at square one when it comes to dealing with one another through this, and having a clear vision of what our government should be doing.

rant over.

I also have a really salty taste in my mouth because our local city has a huge retirement community and those old bastards vote against every school and community measure that might raise their taxes a couple bucks because they don't use the school system anymore. We have a few loved ones in that demographic we obviously want to protect, but its hard for me to rationalize substantially interrupting my life for a substantial amount of time and taking huge losses in my 401k etc. to keep them safe when they don't give a **** enough to pay 10-12 bucks a year in extra property taxes so we can build some of the infrastructure we need for the new school the community desperately needs.

This is an exaggeration of my feelings, but I think it should be noted the millennials are not the only selfish part of the community... now my rant is over.

 

[Beer]

That is what they are trying to prevent with covid. A run on hospitals by the old, the sick, and the others who get a severe case could collapse the medical system for all of us.

So lets collapse the entire economy then ......

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is my feeling too. I think we all have two responsibilities:

1- Social distancing to slow the spread, primarily to keep from overburdening hospitals.
2- Don't panic, and don't engage in creating panic (which too many people are doing in this thread).

This is a terrible situation, and there will be a significant loss of life, mostly concentrated on elderly and people with pre-existing conditions. However, we can and will get through this.

I went to get Ibuprofen at the store on Saturday because my daughter had her tonsils out and they go through the meds like crazy... had to go to 4 stores before I found some children's ibuprofen because the panic buyers bought it all up... there is a study that shows it might be really bad for Corona virus...

It feels like we went from under-reacting to a huge over-reaction over night.