Coronavirus

[Deleted member 365]

One of the frustrations I have is the arrogance and ignorance of these people. The arrogance that they know better than health care experts. They think theyre the lone arbitrators of truth. That those working to mitigate this pandemic are as obsessed with power as they are. The ignorance to what’s happening around the world. The ignorance that freedom is somehow “being able to do whatever I want” without any of the consequences. They’re nothing more than angry children pretending to be civic minded.

when these spoiled children get sick, they’ll be the first ones begging for government to bail them out. They’ll be pleading for medical help. They’ll be begging for ventilators. It’s just a one way street for them. Me me me take take take.

 

[Troat Guru]

One of the frustrations I have is the arrogance and ignorance of these people. The arrogance that they know better than health care experts. They think theyre the lone arbitrators of truth. That those working to mitigate this pandemic are as obsessed with power as they are. The ignorance to what’s happening around the world. The ignorance that freedom is somehow “being able to do whatever I want” without any of the consequences. They’re nothing more than angry children pretending to be civic minded.

when these spoiled children get sick, they’ll be the first ones begging for government to bail them out. They’ll be pleading for medical help. They’ll be begging for ventilators. It’s just a one way street for them. Me me me take take take.

Unfortunately many people (sometimes regrettably it happens also to me) recognise the danger only when they go through that...i've spotted that many times in a lot of different situations.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Unfortunately many people (sometimes regrettably it happens also to me) recognise the danger only when they go through that...i've spotted that many times in a lot of different situations.

it’s not just ignorance, it’s the immaturity. It’s encapsulated below:



We’ve seen this many times with Trump. Democracy, our country, our allies, our foreign policy, and now our health, thrown into the wind to appease a loud immature childish minority. An childish group of people who think it’s their job to flip the world the bird.

They’re not civically minded. They have no concept of what actual freedom means. They think tyranny is being told to stay at home to avoid endangering others. They then bitch about their hair roots, carry anti-Semitic posters, and bring AR15s into state capitols. They want all the benefits of living in a modern day democracy without any of the responsibility. They’re petulant children, who whine about perceived inconveniences. Ask yourself, how many of these people have actually written to their governor explaining why they believe the state should be open? Over or under 50 percent?

2014 trump would’ve agreed with me. Btw, listen to how much better he sounded back then.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yikes. Such a spoiled and unserious people.

 

[Gameface]

Then your question is stupid. There is a wide spectrum of Democrats with different preferences on what kind of society they want. So saying Dems are any one single option would always be incorrect. I just said that they would prefer a Socialist society. You can use replace that with a more liberal society if that helps you sleep better at night. It wasn't even the main point of my argument, so I'm not going to comment on this any further.

Uhhh.

Someone help me out. Is this what the kids are calling "gaslighting" these days?

 

[Troat Guru]

An childish group of people who think it’s their job to flip the world the bird

Agreed, and the fact that make me angry the most is that due to their irresponsible deeds I fear that a lot of good people (I still think the majority of the population) who respect the rules could pay gravely ...

They’re petulant children, who whine about perceived inconveniences. Ask yourself, how many of these people have actually written to their governor explaining why they believe the state should be open? Over or under 50 percent?

Right, they look like babies who cry and complain with no proposals to solve the matter.

 

[Red]

And now Trump is calling these projections of 3000 deaths a day, 200,000 cases a day “fake news”. That alone gives the projections greater credibility. And he doesn’t want Fauci talking to Congress. Why, I wonder. Actually, no, I don’t.

When I saw the projections, and I don’t, and cannot, know what the numbers will be, but I remembered the phase “the cure can’t be worse than the disease” was the leading edge of the president’s public musings, echoed by Fox enablers, and I recalled this piece from March.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-fox-pandemic-nihilism/

"The problem is that the political right.....don’t want such a heavy intervention in the economy. As a result, they indulge in a truly grotesque display of self-interested reasoning and argue that there can be a quick and easy end to quarantines, shutdowns, and social distancing campaigns.

What they are arguing for goes beyond Social Darwinism and is, in fact, a kind of cult capitalism. The existing system is viewed as so sacred that it is worth sacrificing innumerable human lives to keep it going. Even nonrevolutionary changes to the system are anathema."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...irus-guidelines-in-race-to-reopen/ar-BB13B6Rj

"States across the country are moving swiftly to reopen their economies despite failing to achieve benchmarks laid out by the White House for when social distancing restrictions could be eased to ensure the public’s safety during the coronavirus pandemic.

These governors’ biggest cheerleader is President Trump....

.....But Trump and some of his aides have backed away from their own guidelines, opting instead to hail the broad economic reopening that health experts say has started too quickly. The dichotomy comes as the White House also tried to distance itself from a draft federal government report predicting an explosion of new coronavirus casesand 3,000 daily deaths by June 1".
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Now we know, Trump's musings in March, about allowing the virus to just run its course, is the choice he prefers to see play out. Surprise, surprise, he is putting his political fortunes ahead of human life.

 

[silesian]

Trump is actively promoting states to violate trump’s guidelines to reopen the economy. Trump is encouraging his supporters to mass protest state governments.


I wonder why the estimated death count is increasing.

ponderous.

 

[PJF]

 

[Avery]

When it comes to all projections and thinking we know how this will go, I'm throwing it all out the window at this point.

I've already seen enough with my own eyes that tells me how our government has done regardless of what happens from here on out.

 

[candrew]

When you throw out countries like San Marino and Andorra the US is still top 10 in the world in per capita deaths and 30 something in testing per capita.

There's really no way to sugarcoat it. Anyone who finds these numbers acceptable is either a Trump sycophant or an imbecile - or both.

 

[latin jazz]

I was writing a very long reply to this then I thought: what's the point. You are basically a bot, wasting everyone's time here with your inability to engage in a sincere manner.