Coronavirus

[Deleted member 365]

Fantastic article on how cities are seeing their new cases drop as covid runs out of new hosts to infect. but areas outside of cities are seeing new cases skyrocket. Opening states prematurely provides the virus with new hosts and allows it to begin to spread again.

Consider Oklahoma and Texas, two states that loosened their restrictions on businesses statewide. Each state made it through an early spike and watched the number of cases fall for weeks.

Hiding behind the statewide numbers was a different story. Oklahoma’s early spike was due to a surge of cases in its largest cities. Statewide numbers fell during the recovery — but this was due only to the tail-end of outbreaks around Tulsa and Oklahoma City. When those areas are excluded from the statewide figures, the number of new cases holds steady before rising once again.

The same is true in Texas: Cases spiked early on because of a surge in Houston, and after the city's peak, the state seemed to be improving. But removing Houston from the statewide figures shows the number of new cases was rising all along.

and then there’s this:



yikes. So many are brainwashed by Fox News. How can a society function when 35 percent of the population lives in alternative reality?

 

[Miggs]

@candrew

Took a drive with the baby because my wife really had to get work done.

Avon.



I assume the parking spaces weren’t blocked like that when you came down? Every single town from Asbury to Sea Girt was like this other than Bradley Beach and Sea Girt. I just parked in BB for a bit to take in the sites before I head home. Crazy world we’re living in now. I’m curious how many people file for unemployment tomorrow and weeks thereafter, what this summer is going to look like, and when we can resume some sort of normalcy. I hate to say it but there’s some truth to the statement that we aren’t built for this. People have to work. We’ll be relatively okay through August 1st from what I understand about unemployment. After that, who knows.

I gotta say, all the talk of professional sports leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I LOVE my sports but I just don’t see how sports with fans make any sense. Or how certain sports like football and basketball where close contact is nonstop.

Just a rambling as I sit here. Feels good to “get out.”

 

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@The Thriller

You’re still getting your full paycheck, right?

 

[Miggs]

I’m going to vote D but I find a massive insensitivity and ignorance by those who criticize those who want to go back to work. It’s very easy for me or any educator or anyone else who works from home to say, wtf, people are so dumb to want to resume life.

People need to survive. Unfortunately, money is a necessary element in order to do so.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I’m going to vote D but I find a massive insensitivity and ignorance by those who criticize those who want to go back to work. It’s very easy for me or any educator or anyone else who works from home to say, wtf, people are so dumb to want to resume life.

People need to survive. Unfortunately, money is a necessary element in order to do so.

working and getting paid (but risk getting sick)

vs

Not working to avoid getting sick but going bankrupt is a false dichotomy.

Our federal government can and should do much more. I feel like forcing people back to work is not only a mistake both economically and health wise, but takes the pressure of our federal government. Our government should be stepping up testing and tracing. Our government should be providing paychecks to those who cannot work. Our government should be building a much more robust safety net.

But forcing people back to work and letting the virus, "wash over us" causes completely unnecessary suffering and takes all the pressure off the federal government and places it on individuals, minorities in particular. The type of suffering that the rest of the industrialized world would find abhorrent.

 

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working and getting paid (but risk getting sick)

vs

Not working to avoid getting sick but going bankrupt is a false dichotomy.

Our federal government can and should do much more. I feel like forcing people back to work is not only a mistake both economically and health wise, but takes the pressure of our federal government.

Except they might not do much more. Or haven’t yet. So the thought is nice but unless that happens, people get angry and rightfully so.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I’m going to vote D but I find a massive insensitivity and ignorance by those who criticize those who want to go back to work. It’s very easy for me or any educator or anyone else who works from home to say, wtf, people are so dumb to want to resume life.

People need to survive. Unfortunately, money is a necessary element in order to do so.

There's a difference between people wanting to work out of economic necessity and polling that it's safe to eat in restaurants, go to hair salons, and otherwise live a normal life. Clearly, that's who I was addressing with that poll and not people who must work out of economic desperation. Plenty of Democrats need to work out of economic desperation too. Remember that now.

 

[RandyForRubio]

It's pretty amazing how out of touch Thriller is. If only everything was as simple as "the government will fix it".

The money has to come from somewhere.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Except they might not do much more. Or haven’t yet. So the thought is nice but unless that happens, people get angry and rightfully so.

They should and must. Literally, every other industrialized nation has and is doing more. Our testing levels are getting better but still lag behind. We have no national tracing.

Even our neighbors to the north are providing their citizens with $2,000 dollars per month. We give... $1,200 for 10 weeks.

But hey, at least cruise lines and Donald's resorts got billions.

The sense of defeatism is just ridiculous in our country right now.

Just embarrassing. I'm not sure if we would've beaten Japan in World War II if we had had the same attitude back then. Come on. Our government can and should do much more. Lets make them do it rather than take the pressure of and bear it all (unnecessarily) on ourselves

 

[Deleted member 365]

It's pretty amazing how out of touch Thriller is. If only everything was as simple as "the government will fix it".

The money has to come from somewhere.

where was this concern for 3.5 years?

 

[RandyForRubio]

where was this concern for 3.5 years?

Some of us never lost the concern.

This may be shocking to you, being the partisan that you are, but I don't support everything that Trump, or the Republicans do.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Some of us never lost the concern.

This may be shocking to you, being the partisan that you are, but I don't support everything that Trump, or the Republicans do.

I performed a quick search on this site about your speaking out over deficits under Trump. Haven't found anything yet. You didn't even make a peep about the spending over the past two months which gave billions to cruise lines and Trump resorts. So I reiterate, it didn't seem to be a concern for you over the past 3.5 years.

At the end of the day, it's your party that clearly lost that "deficit concern." So I don't want to hear suddenly that they're concerned over deficits (as Moscow Mitch as indicated). Republicans have no problem spending on corporate welfare but suddenly become squeamish when we talk about welfare for citizens.

Our government can and should spend much more. This is the exact time where we need drastic spending to keep the economy afloat and to help Americans survive this pandemic.