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Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

Archie Moses said:
I feel bad for the cop that lost his life. Hate to hear it.

Then you have the murdering scumbag Minnesota police officer. That video makes me sick and angry. Minnesota is going ******* crazy. Look at this police state ****. Unbelievable.

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Apparently there was another CNN crew operating a block away from this one, and that reporter was not disturbed. It's possible the second reporter being white had nothing to do with his not being arrested.
 


189-unit affordable housing burned down.

https://m.startribune.com/minneapol...nit-affordable-housing-development/570836742/



I try not to engage with certain ideas by primarily shaming them, and I tend to not make arguments by appealing to demographics or identity, but I’m seeing a lot of white people on social media saying “I’m seeing a lot of white people on social media ____” and then offering up their explanation of the exceptionalism of what we’re seeing is appropriate, followed by an exhortation to “simply listen” to what the violence is telling us. I’m seeing strong black leadership from Atlanta pleading with people to not burn down their community. Then we’re seeing a celebration of white folks showing their solidarity by burning down black communities, or watching remotely and cheering in some sort of catharsis as those most victimized by these actions are the black communities themselves, and by people not even from those communities.
 
One Brow said:
Apparently there was another CNN crew operating a block away from this one, and that reporter was not disturbed. It's possible the second reporter being white had nothing to do with his not being arrested.
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Possibly. Apparently, this crew was asked 10 times or so to move and they ignored it. I think it should have been resolved without an arrest. Someone with a brain should have talked to the crew and said - look, here's the situation, could you guys move to a specific spot where you can still report.

I think being white or black definitely influences things. I also think sometimes assuming that can be damaging because it's not always an absolute.
 
When I first saw what George Floyd looked like (besides when he was have his face crushed into the cement with a knee on his neck) I immediately thought he looked kinda like Stephen Jackson. The next day or so I see that the guy was actually a close friend with Stephen Jackson and Jackson was speaking out publicly about his death and police brutality. It was one of those pinch me moments like what are the chances I'd think he reminds me of Stephen Jackson and he was actually close friends with him.

I'm glad Jackson is a public figure with lots of platforms from ESPN to his podcast with Matt Barnes called All the Smoke. Dude was actually friends with Floyd. What better person to have speak and lead people?
 
This isn't just a race issue, it's also a class & power dynamic issue. Ever been in a poor white community? White cops patrol and harass them just as well with the same type of disdain you see in the Flloyd video.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
What’s the clear picture?
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I wonder why Unknown is such a large number. If most jurisdictions do not report race, then this report doesn't have quite the value it could. Still, it is obvious blacks are shot at a much higher percentage than whites.

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JazzGal said:
I wonder why Unknown is such a large number. If most jurisdictions do not report race, then this report doesn't have quite the value it could. Still, it is obvious blacks are shot at a much higher percentage than whites.

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I thought the same thing. I wonder why some's races are released while others aren't.
 
The Thriller said:


Just gonna leave this here
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You all should really go and check out the tweets Trump sent out 5 hours ago. He boasts about the secret service in such a way that absolutely throws salt in the current wounds. No surprise, of course, because he’s as pure of a ************ as there is.
 
NAOS said:
Mike has been on point for so long. His talks with Bernie were awesome, too. ****, man, that’s what leadership looks like.
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I wish the current leader of country was more compassionate, sincere, and actually seemed to care.

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As white people are sitting behind their computer screens, from their comfortable homes away from these communities, and feeling good about offering up black communities as a vicarious sacrifice on the alters of racial progress. But they don’t have to deal with the aftermath. Their communities are unaffected. Their way of life unchanged. They can tune out when needed. But they can assuage their own anxieties by making sure they speak up about “allowing black people a voice” by justifying outsiders to come into their communities and burn it down.
 
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As white people are sitting behind their computer screens, from their comfortable homes away from these communities, and feeling good about offering up black communities as a vicarious sacrifice on the alters of racial progress. But they don’t have to deal with the aftermath. Their communities are unaffected. Their way of life unchanged. They can tune out when needed. But they can assuage their own anxieties by making sure they speak up about “allowing black people a voice” by justifying outsiders to come into their communities and burn it down.
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This really is just such a mess, honestly. One thing we need to remember is that there are bad-faith actors in white supremacist and boogaloo *****eads (people hoping for a civil war) that are trying to participate in these and stoke the fires to continue escalating the conflict.

Again, what Killer Mike has to say is exactly where I sit: peaceful protests are preferable but we should be understanding of rioting, and certainly, absolutely avoid destroying homes and small businesses.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Not necessarily at all. In his third year out here my buddy cleared 100K as a cop, with all the overtime he took. He probably made around 130-140K by the sixth year as I remember the jumps being high in salary over his next few years. Many cops out here make over 150K once they’ve put in a good ten years. That money, days off, vacation days, pension and lifestyle are far more attractive to someone who doesn’t crave sitting in a cubicle.

And that pension is huge. They can retire by the time they’re 47 (if they start at 22), collect a fat pension and then get another job in the private sector, clearing (yes, clearing) around 150K if not more. That’s after taxes.
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I'm sorry but that is anything but the norm for 95% of all policemen in the country. No way that asshat in Minneapolis was making 100k per year.

Here are some basic stats.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-Police-Officer-Salary-by-State

Looks like it's right around 50k. That's average. Add in another 20% for OT that's 60k. Being an average, that means obviously some make more, some less. And that is largely without anything near the qualifications you listed. Add in that level of education and certification and it really couldn't compete with private sector jobs. Not to mention with the associate risk.

I still think we need to pay more if we want higher qualified people in these jobs. It's about risk vs reward. The reward isn't worth the risk for the kind of people we really want, and need, in these jobs.
 
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Here's a better one. It's pretty varied by state as you would expect.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...olice-officers-make-in-every-state-2019-9?amp

What's interesting is that the states where we hear more about this kind of **** the pay tends to be lower.

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