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Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

Ron Mexico said:
Crime is much lower now that it was in the 80s in the USA. It's a safer place.

It's a pretty happy and generally nice place. There are some scary areas but not many and not that bad.
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Interesting point is that most of trip reports made by Estonian tourists really give max points to their trips in USA. Of course, most of them visit the most popular places (NYC, Florida, SFO, Yosemite, Yellowstone, we even have die hard Moab fan. Looking at the photos they have made i also had a kind of itch to visit USA and specially those national parks and Hawaii. Usually all of them report that the safety feeling is higher than in Barcelona or Rome.
However, when i read this forum and another my favourite airliners.net, then the situation seems kind of different. A la like there is mini Srebrenica every week in some place in USA and life generally sucks.
And almost everywhere is the democrats vs republicans showdown whether it is in workplace or some other public one and maybe even at some family event.
 
The Thriller said:
Yet, would anyone make excuses for a teacher caught raping a kid on video? What would you think of teachers standing by and watching as one of their own beat a child senseless? Or 57 teachers quitting a special assignment to protest the investigation of 2 of their buddies caught on video knocking a student down and standing there as he bled for his head?
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It's very simple. For at least 20-30 years, teachers have been trained to see themselves as being on students' side. It's not you and your colleagues against the students. So when a colleague is investigated for possible molestation of a student, you don't think "What a terrible thing happened to my colleague," you think "What a terrible thing happened to my student." As we can see from the Buffalo example, that's not at all how cops think. A 75-year old getting beaten by your colleagues isn't terrible. It's terrible your colleagues are now in trouble for it. I think most of us grow out of this kind of attitude around the age of 12. The rest of us, I suppose, just get jobs in law enforcement so they don't have to.
 
I was assaulted by Skinheads in Buffalo in 2005. This doesn’t surprise me one bit.


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AlaskanAssassin said:
If race is irrelevant, why is it explicitly stated that the police officer is white in every article you read about the murder. That fact would never be mentioned if the race of the cop was irrelevant. Do you think the Nation's response to this would be the same if it was two black officers that killed George Floyd?

It's willful ignorance if you think the race of the cop is irrelevant.
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I've seen articles about plenty of black, mexican, asian cops participating in police brutality.
Wes Mantooth said:
Agreed. Not sure I’ve ever felt unsafe. I’ve walked through the worst parts of Trenton as a meter reader and never felt unsafe...though 1) I did think to myself if some ************* locks me down here as I opened the huge sidewalk grate and walked underground to do the reading one time, cobwebs engulfing me...yet the unsafest I ever felt in that job was when I read a meter for a guy in the back woodsy part of Princeton. A house every 100-125 meters or so on the road. His meter was in some odd closet attached to the side of his house. He had to come out to unlock the door for me. He just felt off to me the whole time. He unlocked the closet, I walked in, quickly read it, my meter firmly strapped in my palm. As I turned around, he was maybe five or six feet away, each of his hands on each door jam on either side of the doorway, his body sort of leaning in toward me. I gave him about 1-1.5 seconds to move...ya know, basic common sense, I was ****ing done. When he didn’t move, I firmly said, excuse me, ready to swing the meter hard as hell against his skull. He moved, and I was sure to keep an eye on him out of the corner of my eye, me still ready to swing the meter. I walked back to my vehicle, he back into his house, and I got into my car and started backing out of his driveway, watching as he peeked through his curtains out at me. ****ing weird white dude.
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Yeah, the only times I've felt unsafe is in the backwoods of Alaska. Crazy asses out there.
 
Archie Moses said:
This seems like a good story if you don't mind sharing.
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My band was on tour. We stopped at a late night club to grab drinks and dance it up. A skinhead biker gang pulled up. One bike had a swastika gas cap and one of the guys we were with decided to steal it cause Nazis. Well someone saw and told them. We were parked across the street, hanging out ready to go home. None of us knew they took the gas cap. About 20 huge skinheads rushed over and started beating us up. They pulled guns and knives. I walked up to the group arguing with us and got sucker punched in the face. The owner of the bar ran out and told us these guys run **** and we need to get out of there now. We all heard sirens, they walked off and we got out of there. One of the most terrifying nights of my life.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Black Panther’s in Atlanta


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It’s bad history to call the group the Black Panthers and just leave it there. They call themselves the New Black Panthers but are not connected to or successors in any legitimate way to the Black Panther Party. In fact, the real Panthers, through the Huey Newton Foundation, have denounced the group, saying they are exploiting the Black Panther name and history in order to try to find legitimacy in the black community.

A few quotes from the Newton Foundation:

"…They denigrate the Party's name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded...The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the "white establishment." The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people."

The New Black Panthers have been categorized as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League.
 
JimLes said:
It's very simple. For at least 20-30 years, teachers have been trained to see themselves as being on students' side. It's not you and your colleagues against the students. So when a colleague is investigated for possible molestation of a student, you don't think "What a terrible thing happened to my colleague," you think "What a terrible thing happened to my student." As we can see from the Buffalo example, that's not at all how cops think. A 75-year old getting beaten by your colleagues isn't terrible. It's terrible your colleagues are now in trouble for it. I think most of us grow out of this kind of attitude around the age of 12. The rest of us, I suppose, just get jobs in law enforcement so they don't have to.
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This is actually human nature. You are describing tribalism. And people don't grow out of it, their tribe just changes.
 
I know nothing about the New Black Panters, but I don't really think the Huey P Newton foundation has any legit claim to the legacy of the BPP either.
 
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