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Playoffs are what matters.

I'm glad there are a few more seeding games to watch. That's fun.

But we're talking about playoffs.

Thoughts?
 
We are probably not going to pass the first round whatever the matchup so hard to be really excited for the Jazz. But I am going to enjoy these post-Warriors playoffs with many good teams competing for the title and root against the Lakers and Rockets.
 
We lose tiebreakers against both OKC and HOU if we end up with identical records. That would push us to #6.

Regardless of who we play in round one, we will be underdogs.
 
Avery said:
We lose tiebreakers against both OKC and HOU if we end up with identical records. That would push us to #6.

Regardless of who we play in round one, we will be underdogs.
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I just don't want to play harden again

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My expectations have been tempered to the point where a first round win would be considered a very nice surprise. But I do hope we are competitive regardless. And of course for the NBA at large the playoffs are a blast.
 
>>6th seed is the most probable outcome for the Jazz. That’ll probably put them up against Denver. Jazz may push it to a 6th game; Denver should be considered clear favorites.

>>I’m very interested in the tier of dark-horse contenders this year. The teams I’m watching the closest are OKC, Toronto, and Miami. Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if any of these teams won the tournament. I have Houston in this tier, too, but I hate them and don’t think they have as good a shot as the other three teams I mentioned.

>>The refereeing has been pretty bad bubble-wide. Unless this reverts back to normal, this is going to have a different kind of impact on the playoffs. I’m not sure what’s going on right now, but I’ve seen good chunks of about 9 games since the restart and at least 4 of them were very poorly officiated (two of them were Milwaukee games, fwiw).
 
I would want to avoid Houston at all costs - simply put, we are a horrible matchup with them. Add in the superstar treatment for Westbrook and Harden and you have a recipe for frustration.
 
NAOS said:
>>6th seed is the most probable outcome for the Jazz. That’ll probably put them up against Denver. Jazz may push it to a 6th game; Denver should be considered clear favorites.

>>I’m very interested in the tier of dark-horse contenders this year. The teams I’m watching the closest are OKC, Toronto, and Miami. Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if any of these teams won the tournament. I have Houston in this tier, too, but I hate them and don’t think they have as good a shot as the other three teams I mentioned.

>>The refereeing has been pretty bad bubble-wide. Unless this reverts back to normal, this is going to have a different kind of impact on the playoffs. I’m not sure what’s going on right now, but I’ve seen good chunks of about 9 games since the restart and at least 4 of them were very poorly officiated (two of them were Milwaukee games, fwiw).
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I wish I would have put money on OKC before these games began.

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Avery said:
I would want to avoid Houston at all costs - simply put, we are a horrible matchup with them. Add in the superstar treatment for Westbrook and Harden and you have a recipe for frustration.
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I just don't want to play them because they have 2 of my least favorite players on their team.

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fishonjazz said:
I just don't want to play them because they have 2 of my least favorite players on their team.

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Harden will get 20 FT's a game against us and make 18. Aside from the scoring itself, 75% of those fouls will be him charging into someone and throwing his arms across there's to generate contact.

It's an unwatchable product when that happens and I'm not replacing any more TV remotes.
 
It's hard to be excited about the playoffs when the team has played so poorly. Granted they played the Lakers well enough, but they've beat two teams they should beat (by not many points either) and got absolutely crushed by a team that they should be at least equal with.

Some of those turnovers they're committing really makes me not want to watch the team. It's not like they're just the garden variety bad turnover. They are just horrendous, and they happen multiple times a game. If they can get that cleaned up I'll be a lot more interested in the playoffs.

Not that I'm not going to watch every single minute.
 
Nate505 said:
It's hard to be excited about the playoffs when the team has played so poorly. Granted they played the Lakers well enough, but they've beat two teams they should beat (by not many points either) and got absolutely crushed by a team that they should be at least equal with.

Some of those turnovers they're committing really makes me not want to watch the team. It's not like they're just the garden variety bad turnover. They are just horrendous, and they happen multiple times a game. If they can get that cleaned up I'll be a lot more interested in the playoffs.

Not that I'm not going to watch every single minute.
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The turnovers youre talking about are frustrating, no doubt. But they are literally the same ol, garden variety turnover we’ve seen from every preseason jazz team coached by Snyder. His teams always start slow. And I think that’s because, on offense, they are always hyper-focused on “connectivity” and “chemistry” over crisply taking the first good open shot. You see a maddening number of turnovers produced by extra passes as they hunt for a better shot. Some of this behavior is actually good—it’s indicative of the team coming together—but they need to move through this phase really quickly to have any chance of competing against whoever their playoff opponent is. And, in general, Q needs to move his teams through this better and faster every season.

On defense, we’ve had a years-long habit of starting again at first principles and building up from there. Again, that’s fine to an extent, but it always takes too much time—and it’s likely to do so again in the bubble—where we’ve fielded a team that might just suck at perimeter defense no matter what stage of development we find them in.

Denver is either #1 or #2 in the league in scoring. The Jazz need to figure out a lot of **** on both sides of the ball to have a reasonable chance. I’m most cynical about the defensive side. I just don’t think we have the size or athleticism on the perimeter. And I also think we've shown a noticeable lack of energy and commitment. I have a good football analogy for what I’m seeing that I’ll have to write out another time (the basic part of the analogy is that Q is has communicated the right principles, audibles, and shifts for the defense to make pre-snap, but then we are just getting murdered after the snap).

Andy Larsen gonna steal ^this ****^
 
Avery said:
Harden will get 20 FT's a game against us and make 18. Aside from the scoring itself, 75% of those fouls will be him charging into someone and throwing his arms across there's to generate contact.

It's an unwatchable product when that happens and I'm not replacing any more TV remotes.
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I watched some recent game of Rockets, don't remember which one but at some point Harden shot the 3 pointer desperately kicking with his legs like a hanged man at the same moment to draw the foul. He actually kicked the defender in the nuts, that was the only contact, shot went in and he got a free throw..I nearly puked.
 
We've been absolutely annihilated by the Rockets two straight seasons. I don't think officiating had much to do with it.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
We've been absolutely annihilated by the Rockets two straight seasons. I don't think officiating had much to do with it.
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There’s all kind of proof of the fact that Harden gets an unprecedented whistle. Like, totally unprecedented. I’ll refrain from saying whether or not I think it’s a just whistle, and just emphasize how unprecedented it is. And this whistle has absolutely everything to do with playing the Rockets. The dynamic between Harden-defender-referees is the most dominate feature of the game. That’s why it’s so ****ing boring to watch them.

There’s a believable scenario where we beat them this year. But I just don’t want to ****ing watch anymore Rockets basketball, so I’m hoping for another matchup.

And getting ahead of OKC and Miami in the draft would be nice as well.
 
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