Is Quin really a good coach?
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When he was hired I thought he was very modern and ahead of the game...but nowadays, there's nothing unique about a spread PnR or drop coverage defense. The game has passed him. There are still a lot of bad/unproven coaches so I'd call him average. But he's definitely not one of the best coaches in the league. His reputation is better than his performance.
Besides X's and O's he also lost the locker room last season.
Besides X's and O's he also lost the locker room last season.
jom2003
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last season he doesn't have the personnel needed to adjust his game plan. i'll give him that. but this season with the addition of Shaq, it's hard to justify putting Royce on someone Kyrie after seeing what Royce has done to Jamal Murray during playoffs.
Eh...got to remember who guys like Oni and Shaq are. I'm high on both, but I'm not going to kill him for not playing them. Oni has proven nothing at the NBA level and was probably the 3-4th best player on our G-League team last year. Shaq has only played well in tank time and the one time he had a real role in the NBA, he was not good enough. That is not a decision I'm super down on Quin for.
In general I think his tactics are very simplistic and he has always been a no adjustment coach. It's not necessarily bad to stick to your guns, but his basic strategy has been surpassed by others. What was innovative years ago is standard practice now and he has not advanced with the times. We have nothing on defense besides drop coverage and hope Rudy can defend anything. We have nothing on offense besides spread pick and roll and slight variations to get the same exact action going.
jom2003
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both guys are not proven... whereas royce is already a proven disaster on small guards. yeah right
Royce is an NBA caliber player who has been a good player for a good team for years. The issue with the perimeter defense is not Royce, it is that Royce is the best perimeter defender of the rotation caliber players by a mile. Ingles used to be the PnR defender, but he has aged out of it and puts in no effort to play defense.
I'm not sure we improve as a team by putting in Oni or Shaq even if they are better guard defenders. Neither has proven to be a good rotation player. They might be, but I'm not going to kill a coach for not playing random X, Y, Z non rotation guy into the starting lineup.
I hated him at MO. He is a bit better now. He is a good player friendly coach. X's and O's? Not so much.
I'd say Shaq has proven to be a good rotation player. The on/off metrics during his Chicago tenure paint a very favorable picture.
I don't know **** about Shaq but in the three or four minutes I've seen him play he looks like an NBA-caliber player with a TON of hustle and energy.
jom2003
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those sound like the exact BS excuse for every other coach before they get fired.
"not sure playing guys X, Y, and Z would help us improve"
"not sure playing gameplan A, B and C would help us win games"
well, if you aren't sure, why not leave it to some other guy who's not afraid of trying new things
He looks like a serial killer but he is soft. He have his favorites. He won't sit you even if you are playing crap. Young guys have no chance to develop unless you offer something above average on his system. Your impact need to be like Clarkson level at least or you won't earn any minutes.
So he's more of a cereal killer?
It's super weird that a poster on Jazzfanz says something and you respond as if Quin said it.
Handlogten's Heros
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He’s good but when he does coke he’s a genius.
I think he’s solid but I’m not sure he’s the evil genius Locke and others make him out to be. I think he manages the guys well. We have successful schemes. He sticks with his guys for better or worse.
I’d put him top ten.
I think he’s solid but I’m not sure he’s the evil genius Locke and others make him out to be. I think he manages the guys well. We have successful schemes. He sticks with his guys for better or worse.
I’d put him top ten.
Masked Cereal Killer!!
homeytennis
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He is not a good coach. I could get the players to love me but I would suck as a coach. Us being down by 40 at the half vs. Toronto and then having the audacity to tell Locke that Dante just wasn't ready to play yet just chafed me. He drives me crazy with his rotation patterns and he ain't no Sloan or Frank Layden. I'm amazed the Millers hired him after all that went down at Missouri. His Missouri hijinks did not paint him as a high character guy.
His on/off metrics the one year he had a real role (not tanking time) were amongst the worst in the entire league.
