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Protestors storm capital

Is it a weakness of American democracy that you have a lame duck president that can destabilise the country? You lose the election here, pack your bags, **** off, you're out of office.
Should be like MTV's the challenge... I'd even support no concession speech... just TJ Lavin saying "this ends your time in the White House... take care" They grab their duffle bag and walk onto a plane.
 
Would require overtime and they have had a long day... would also require a bunch of people to admit they were wrong. Seems like it would take balls and effort...

Send a signal that they will not further put themselves or our country at risk.
 
The full text of the statement from George W. Bush:

Laura and I are watching the scenes of mayhem unfolding at the seat of our Nation's government in disbelief and dismay. It is a sickening and heartbreaking sight. This is how election results are disputed in a banana republic – not our democratic republic. I am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and by the lack of respect shown today for our institutions, our traditions, and our law enforcement. The violent assault on the Capitol – and disruption of a Constitutionally-mandated meeting of Congress – was undertaken by people whose passions have been inflamed by falsehoods and false hopes. Insurrection could do grave damage to our Nation and reputation. In the United States of America, it is the fundamental responsibility of every patriotic citizen to support the rule of law. To those who are disappointed in the results of the election: Our country is more important than the politics of the moment. Let the officials elected by the people fulfill their duties and represent our voices in peace and safety. May God continue to bless the United States of America.
 
Today could be the end of something or the start of something. If we don't create a path for politicians to walk back the nonsense they've been spouting then it will most likely be the latter.

On a personal note, my feelings on this are likely clouded by having been born in a country where 25 years ago, an actual genocide(legally speaking) happened. Very few people today will speak in support of actual genocide, but like you said, things don't happen in a vacuum. What part was played by those who weren't pulling the trigger? You can't just say we need to create a path for people to walk back stuff. You said it. It had an effect. You can't undo it.

Today, a coup attempt happened. There's no if or buts about it. It was just a very pathetic coup attempt, but many coup attempts are like that. That doesn't make them less serious. Republicans in Senate and the House who have been parroting ******** about how the election was stolen are just as culpable as Trump. If this was a coup attempt, they need to be charged with sedition. Words are not just words, they matter. I know that part of the whole appeal of Trump is his saying ridiculous stuff and then walking it back to some degree or another, but I hope people haven't become that desensitized to it all. There has to be some accountability. Legal for the politicians and moral for those who elected them. People who voted for Trump, whether in 2016 or 2020 are morally culpable, just like people who voted for politicians who committed genocide are morally culpable. At some point, you have to put ethics above "unity" and "togetherness."
 
On a personal note, my feelings on this are likely clouded by having been born in a country where 25 years ago, an actual genocide(legally speaking) happened. Very few people today will speak in support of actual genocide, but like you said, things don't happen in a vacuum. What part was played by those who weren't pulling the trigger? You can't just say we need to create a path for people to walk back stuff. You said it. It had an effect. You can't undo it.

Today, a coup attempt happened. There's no if or buts about it. It was just a very pathetic coup attempt, but many coup attempts are like that. That doesn't make them less serious. Republicans in Senate and the House who have been parroting ******** about how the election was stolen are just as culpable as Trump. If this was a coup attempt, they need to be charged with sedition. Words are not just words, they matter. I know that part of the whole appeal of Trump is his saying ridiculous stuff and then walking it back to some degree or another, but I hope people haven't become that desensitized to it all. There has to be some accountability. Legal for the politicians and moral for those who elected them. People who voted for Trump, whether in 2016 or 2020 are morally culpable, just like people who voted for politicians who committed genocide are morally culpable. At some point, you have to put ethics above "unity" and "togetherness."

Excellent post.
 
I was wondering why the Capitol police seemed to just let them in as if it was previously agreed upon.
As I understand it they aren't well equipped for this type of thing. I'm not sure why there wasn't maximum beefed up security... this could have been a very very dark day. Like some Dark Knight ****.
 
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