Coronavirus

[Gameface]

Lol. Idiots. We are killing ourselves becuase the libs are making us do it!
Seriously though that article is looney tunes. It talks about how no one is talking about how effective the vaccine is at preventing death and hospitalization because the left doesnt want the right to know how good the vaccine is. Wtf? I have seen so many articles and information about that topic.



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Mega pet peeve of mine is when an information source (or a misinformation source) proclaims "What they don't want you to know," or "What no one is talking about," or "What they won't tell you is," it is almost always NOT true, but within an information bubble it works because the audience isn't listening to what "they" are saying, they're just believing what their misinformation source tells them "they" are talking about. Then they march out into the world thinking they know stuff the other side either doesn't know or is actively trying to hide and it's pathetic and laughable.

Like talking to a moon landing conspiracy theorist who thinks the only reason I belive the moon landings actually happened is because they haven't shown me all the information "they" didn't want me to find out. I look at the same old pile of nonsense I've seen 100% and reject it, again, and they tell me that I'm a sheeple. Rinse, wash, repeat.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Sick People want to do sick things to otherwise healthy kids

yup unless the kids have a significant health issue that puts them more at risk ... risking this reaction for a virus that for a healthy young kid is so highly unlikely to give any significant symptom is dubious at best and could be construed as reckless. Ethically particularly forcing vaccination on this age group in order to "protect those around them" is .. well an issue not to be sneezed at.

 

[One Brow]

yup unless the kids have a significant health issue that puts them more at risk ... risking this reaction for a virus that for a healthy young kid is so highly unlikely to give any significant symptom is dubious at best and could be construed as reckless.

As has already been presented, and should be obvious, the risk from the disease is higher than the risk from the vaccine, even if you assume only a 50% chance to catch the disease if not vaccinated.

Ethically particularly forcing vaccination on this age group in order to "protect those around them" is .. well an issue not to be sneezed at.

True. In the US, no one is being forced into vaccination.

 

[Hax0rs]

yup unless the kids have a significant health issue that puts them more at risk ... risking this reaction for a virus that for a healthy young kid is so highly unlikely to give any significant symptom is dubious at best and could be construed as reckless. Ethically particularly forcing vaccination on this age group in order to "protect those around them" is .. well an issue not to be sneezed at.

These morons want to vaccinate kids with a untested vaccine, that doesn't "immunize" but "protect" per the CDC(changed the definition of vaccine this year), from a disease that they are less likely to die from than be struck by lightning.

MORONS

 

[Archie Moses]

No one is being forced.

It would be ridiculous if people lost jobs because they refused to wear hard hats, or steel-toed shoes, or hair nets. However, we wouldn't be blaming the company that requires the hats, shoes, and/or nets.

Lol

You're comparing hard hats to someone's choice with what they do with their body.

I support being vaccinated. I am. I still got it and blew bubble balls.

Maybe society should fire people who do or don't do things with their body, right?

Insane.

Smdh.

 

[Gameface]

Lol

You're comparing hard hats to someone's choice with what they do with their body.

Smdh.

Those are all things that people do with their bodies. You could make arguments about the harm that hard hats do... and those arguments would be about as valid as the arguments against the COVID vaccine. The personal freedom angle and if you should be able to work if you refuse would be pretty similar IMHO. Except with a hard hat you're only protecting yourself.

Vaccines are safe and effective. Hundreds of millions have taken the COVID vaccines, and those vaccines have come and gone from their bodies. Are we waiting for some mysterious damage to manifest itself that is greater than the damage from COVID? Spoiler alert, it ain't coming. It is safer to take vaccines than get COVID. Just like it's safer to wear a hard hat than to not if something hard and heavy drops onto your head.

 

[Archie Moses]

Those are all things that people do with their bodies. You could make arguments about the harm that hard hats do... and those arguments would be about as valid as the arguments against the COVID vaccine. The personal freedom angle and if you should be able to work if you refuse would be pretty similar IMHO. Except with a hard hat you're only protecting yourself.

Vaccines are safe and effective. Hundreds of millions have taken the COVID vaccines, and those vaccines have come and gone from their bodies. Are we waiting for some mysterious damage to manifest itself that is greater than the damage from COVID? Spoiler alert, it ain't coming. It is safer to take vaccines than get COVID. Just like it's safer to wear a hard hat than to not if something hard and heavy drops onto your head.

Again, I support getting vaccinated but the idea that if people choose not to should be punished, is insane to me.

We live in the Gawd Damn free world. You of all people should know and support this.

I highly encourage everyone to be vaccinated, and if they're not, I'm not gonna ostracize/segregate them.

We live in a silly society.

 

[Gameface]

Again, I support getting vaccinated but the idea that if people choose not to should be punished, is insane to me.

We live in the Gawd Damn free world. You of all people should know and support this.

I highly encourage everyone to be vaccinated, and if they're not, I'm not gonna ostracize/segregate them.

We live in a silly society.

Well I agreed with you about people being "forced" to get vaccinated. I do not agree that workplace requirements are the same as punishing people or forcing them to get vaccinated. If a person wants to not vaccinate, and therefore put other people at greater risk, then they should hold that position strongly enough to willingly leave a workplace that requires vaccinations, same as a person in a construction environment that is opposed to hard hats and decides they'd rather not comply and lose their job, except that the hard hat is liability control for the employer because it is only the individual who is protected from a hard hat.

We live in a silly society for sure, where people think they should face no consequences at all for putting other people's life at risk when there is a very easy option to help protect their self and the people who work closely with them.

 

[Archie Moses]

Well I agreed with you about people being "forced" to get vaccinated. I do not agree that workplace requirements are the same as punishing people or forcing them to get vaccinated. If a person wants to not vaccinate, and therefore put other people at greater risk, then they should hold that position strongly enough to willingly leave a workplace that requires vaccinations, same as a person in a construction environment that is opposed to hard hats and decides they'd rather not comply and lose their job, except that the hard hat is liability control for the employer because it is only the individual who is protected from a hard hat.

We live in a silly society for sure, where people think they should face no consequences at all for putting other people's life at risk when there is a very easy option to help protect their self and the people who work closely with them.

I have a lot of opinions on the virus. Trust me, I should. I've done my due-diligence on educating not only myself, but others about the virus.
I was probably in the first 10 to 20% of Utahns to get vaccinated and have and still will encourage family members to get vaccinated even though I still got the damn thing.

To me though, as simple as it may sound to say everyone should be vaccinated is being short sighted on their decision. Yes, decisions have consequences, but to fire someone, threaten someone, force someone or ostracize someone for not getting vaccinated (comparing it to hard hats or steel toed shoes) is ****ing ridiculous.

It's people's bodies and it's none of anyone's gawd damn business what they do with it. I'm consistent on this thought process, it's amazing how many aren't.

My mom ****ing died from the virus.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

My mom ****ing died from the virus.

I'm really sorry to hear that.

 

[One Brow]

These morons want to vaccinate kids with a untested vaccine, that doesn't "immunize" but "protect" per the CDC(changed the definition of vaccine this year), from a disease that they are less likely to die from than be struck by lightning.

The protection is from immunization. Don't be dense.

Kids are even less likely to be injured/killed by the vaccine than they are by covid19. That alone should be more than enough.

 

[One Brow]

You're comparing hard hats to someone's choice with what they do with their body.

Every company with a mandate allows for regular testing instead of getting vaccinated.