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Al-O-Meter
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That *IS* my argument. I agree with Dr. Jha that Omicron is less severe. It is the use of "marginally" to imply the difference between Omicron and the earlier variants is negligible. The statistics support a massive difference in mortality between Omicron and the earlier variants. I agree with Dr. Jha's opinion of "that in this upcoming wave That link [between infections, hospitalizations, and death] will finally break".
Do you think Dr. Jha is wrong and that the difference is only "marginal"?
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I hope it is less severe. But I think we need to be cautious. Especially if it's only marginally less severe as the significantly more infectious rates might offset the benefits of less severe illness.
The best way to avoid severe illness is to get boosted. That's what the actual experts are saying. I certainly haven't seen any expert tout that it's significantly less severe yet. If anything, most are still holding off on making assumptions until there is more data available. We might find that pretty soon seeing how NYC is currently in their wave of Omicron while Utah is just starting it.
In the quoted tweet, Dr. Jha referred to the link breaking among the vaccinated. You dropped that part, which is unsurprising. So, the difference could well be marginal without Dr. Jha being wrong.
Al-O-Meter
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These days you can find experts who attest to almost anything. It is the data that's telling, and it is available.
South Africa got Omicron first. Here are what the case/hospitalization/death curves look like. You can see that in the original infection, the South African variant now called "beta", and the delta infection, all had spikes in death closely timed with spikes in cases. That isn't the case with Omicron. Omicron cases spiked and deaths barely moved. The death rate right now in South Africa at the top of the Omicron spike is about the same level as the lowest the death rate ever got between beta wave and delta wave.
The above chart shows data from almost a week ago. In the past week, cases in South Africa has peaked and are on the decline.
The worst is over for South Africa. Hospitalization did rise but nowhere near as much as they did for the delta variant. As for deaths, there is no spike.
South Africa is one of the least vaccinated countries on the planet. Omicron simply doesn't kill like the previous variants did. Omicron for all intents and purposes is indistinguishable from the common cold and it is now the dominant variant in the United States. If we are making data-driven decisions, this pandemic is done. We should be moving to a new phase where we convince people the world is as safe as it was in 2019.
They said today that 30% of cases in Utah are now Omicron. I think it will be a good thing for all of us if it quickly chokes Delta out. It will be interesting to see how the holidays go.
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