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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

fishonjazz said:
It could last a decade. No way to really know. Not sure how long it took minnesota or the kings to make the playoffs (probably others im missing too) but a team can definitely suck for a long long time.
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Not if they tank… Minnesota, Magic and Kings get hurt when they shortcut the process or fall too in love with late lotto mediocrity. I’d say the average tank lasts 3 years. Then they have one additional year late lotto as they are trying a bit harder to win. There are also instances when rebuild last longer because teams miss so hard (kings)… the magic have had poor luck as the drafts they move up in didn’t have great prospects and the Fournier, Vuc, Gordon group was just good enough to get them into contention for the 8 seed.

Memphis rebuild was like 1.5 years tbh. They didn’t plan on being bad and waited until they had Ja to move Mike and make the roster about the future. Injuries led them to landing JJJ.

All I’m saying is everyone makes it out to be this long drawn out process… the process will take an extra couple years if we don’t do the Don trade imo… unless you have a super duper star that is committed to the team you will generally have a good 5-6 run then need to change it up. It’s just the cycle of life… lean in instead of fight it and you will give yourself a much better chance at success.
 
Some people here seem to be under the impression that our choice is either trade Donovan and start a re-build or keep him long term and build around him. That's just not realistic. He doesn't want to be here so we're going to have to trade him eventually anyway. If we wait until he only has one year left on his contract, we will have no leverage at all in trade negotiations...the more years left on his contract the more leverage we have.

I just don't see the point in wasting our assets on win now pieces to build around Donovan and then having to turn around and trade him next year anyway. It makes absolutely no sense.
 
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I am less worried about a tank with Ainge on board. He has a knack for a few things. I have been impressed so far. He must be a good talker, evaluator, draftor, and can read markets for players. His championship and relationship with Bird, Barkley is something that probably helps him too. If we had another GM working a tank, I would be nervous.
 
Jingled said:
Some people here seem to be under the impression that our choice is either trade Donovan and start a re-build or keep him long term and build around him. That's just not realistic. He doesn't want to be here so we're going to have to trade him eventually anyway. If we wait until he only has one year left on his contract, we will have no leverage at all in trade negotiations...the more years left on his contract the more leverage we have.

I just don't see the point in wasting our assets on win now pieces to build around Donovan and then having to turn around and trade him next year anyway. It makes absolutely no sense.
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Jingled said:
Some people here seem to be under the impression that our choice is either trade Donovan and start a re-build or keep him long term and build around him. That's just not realistic. He doesn't want to be here so we're going to have to trade him eventually anyway. If we wait until he only has one year left on his contract, we will have no leverage at all in trade negotiations...the more years left on his contract the more leverage we have.

I just don't see the point in wasting our assets on win now pieces to build around Donovan and then having to turn around and trade him next year anyway. It makes absolutely no sense.
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But let’s talk about the fringe scenario Donovan stays: the Jazz will be paying >$60 million a year for him if he re-ups.

If I could laugh react to my own post I would.
 
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