Jazz Fusion
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What will it look like? How long will it take to flip Westbrook?
Lakers-Jazz Trade
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TheStormofWar
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Westbrook and picks for Conley and whoever they want.
We are not going to flip Westbrook we are going to buy him out.
Bogey is all but guaranteed to be included. Likely Beasley and maybe Clarkson as well.
Bogey is all but guaranteed to be included. Likely Beasley and maybe Clarkson as well.
Hearsky
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I'm not sure I understand the logic of buying him out now. I mean, if his salary is going to count against the cap anyway, why not John Wall him home and see if a team that thought they were going to be better than they are wants to flip a pick and player for salary cap room next FA season.
Coach Ellis
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At this point, I’m down for whatever DA wants to do. I’m never going to question him again. The guy has carte blanche as far as I’m concerned.
We are 1.7M under the luxury tax.
The deal is probably Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson for Westbrook plus picks. That shaves 1.3M off of our salary and puts us at 15 players.
The deal is probably Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson for Westbrook plus picks. That shaves 1.3M off of our salary and puts us at 15 players.
Coach Ellis
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Good point to consider. Hopefully they can get a few million back in a buyout of Westbrook for some breathing room too.
David Stern
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This might be a stretch, but I’d try to dump Rudy Gay in there as well to create even more breathing room.
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Buy him out and just make him give back what would be a minimum contract value… he can pick his next destination
The more I think about it the more I’m fairly certain this will be the exact deal.
We likely go into the season with Conley. He’s a good vet to have around the young guys and good for the culture. Maybe we find a taker at the trade deadline who attaches bad salary with a pick. At the very worst he’s a nice expiring contract next year or we can cut ties as his contract is only 14.3M guaranteed.
Whatever they want (besides Lebron/AD)
for
Whatever we want (of their draft assets)
That's my proposal. The more specific reasoning here is that the Lakers could go a lot of different ways with their preferences (multi-year contracts or expirings? The lower-bound of returning salary that saves them tens of millions in cash, or the higher-bound that gets them a better team [this gap is like $20+ million in returning contracts]?). So just let them go wild. But for a price.
for
Whatever we want (of their draft assets)
That's my proposal. The more specific reasoning here is that the Lakers could go a lot of different ways with their preferences (multi-year contracts or expirings? The lower-bound of returning salary that saves them tens of millions in cash, or the higher-bound that gets them a better team [this gap is like $20+ million in returning contracts]?). So just let them go wild. But for a price.
3-for-1 is what it will be. Essentially let them pick the three players they want without making us go into the luxury tax. It would likely be some combination of Bogey/Conley/Beasley/Clarkson.
Interestingly enough, I just checked and Bogey/Conley/Vanderbilt is around 500k short of matching Westbrook’s salary.
It is definitely one of these:
Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson
Bogey/Conley/Vanderbilt
Unless they want to pay like 40M+ extra in luxury tax but I doubt it.
Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson
Bogey/Conley/Vanderbilt
Unless they want to pay like 40M+ extra in luxury tax but I doubt it.
If we want the picks then be serious about it. Not like the Jazz won't save money in future years or have other opportunities to shed some salary this year. Hell, they could hold Westbrook hostage and ask that he take a buyout the size of the amount the Jazz are over the LT.
Haven’t done any scenarios with salary matching yet but the absolute most we could go into the luxury tax in a Westbrook deal is 7.7M and it be a legal trade. Theoretically, we could hold Westbrook out unless he agreed to be bought out for 39.3M or less lol. I like it but not sure it’s realistic.
EDIT: Bogey/Beasley/Vanderbilt adds 7.5M worth of salary for us.
The more I think about it we could technically just trade two players for Westbrook if we bought him out and still end up at 15 players.
The only two scenarios where that works is:
Bogey/Conley
Conley/Beasley
A lot of different options.
The only two scenarios where that works is:
Bogey/Conley
Conley/Beasley
A lot of different options.
Guis…
What if we just held on to Westbrook just long enough for the dust to settle in NY and let the Knicks Knick and eventually feel pressure to bring in a star and former MVP. He’d be the biggest star since Carmelo. Of course, I don’t know what salary matching would look like for that, but that will cost extra. They give us a small portion of the Mitchell offer and they can have Westbrook and salary relief.
What if we just held on to Westbrook just long enough for the dust to settle in NY and let the Knicks Knick and eventually feel pressure to bring in a star and former MVP. He’d be the biggest star since Carmelo. Of course, I don’t know what salary matching would look like for that, but that will cost extra. They give us a small portion of the Mitchell offer and they can have Westbrook and salary relief.
