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I think Ainge is hoping to duplicate his last Boston rebuild. They ended up in the dumps for one year then back in the playoffs because of IT, Crowder, Smart... then they added Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Horford, Kyrie... with cap space and draft capital the next few years.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Houston is out a couple picks because of the CP trade though. They didn't have as much to sell off.

I agree with your overall point though. Those picks don't help now unless the 2023 pick hits in a huge way (minor miracle) or you decide to cash in some picks in 2 years for a star.

We are likely looking at 2-3 years as the best case scenario... more likely 3-4 years.

Unless Lauri goes back to the 20/10 guy he was for a minute as a second year player and Sexton goes to an efficient 25/5 guy and Ochai/Kessler hit in a huge way.

I do think we have way more potential than Houston to turn it around quickly... OKC had SGA and a **** ton of picks doe... so starting from a similar point. If Chet wasn't out all year and the didn't actively do the BS they do to tank I think they could have been a play in team but will now Tank this **** as they have an excuse.
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There is no way that SGA doesn't demand a trade at some point and he is one of the cases where he would be right to do so.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Memphis would have been a play-in team (9th seed) in Year 3. They tanked two years and drafted JJJ and Ja, respectively.
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They didn’t tank for Ja. They started that year out with Conley and Gasol on the roster. It’s not a remotely similar situation. They got extremely lucky, but it wasn’t a tear down to begin with. Tanking with a roster built to make the playoffs is not the same as a complete tear down.

Even if you want to say they’re similar (they aren’t) it is extremely lucky to get the #2 pick from the 8th lottery position, have the #2 prospect be Ja Morant, and also nail several other moves.

If it takes extremely unlikely circumstances to produce something, especially ones that you have no control over, it’s not something to count on.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Locke basically said Donovan lost trust in the team and that's why his clutch numbers were so bad this year. Basically tried to do it all himself. He's the only player he linked to that comment with an example.

**** Donovan for real. Then you could tell in the elimination Game 6 vs Dallas he pulled a "oh you want to do it without me" kind of thing and went totally passive in the final minutes (though it probably helped us overall, Bogey just missed the shot). Still was a lame *** move on his part.
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I think Clarkson's was frequently guilty of trying to do it all himself and not trusting his teammates last season as well.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Ainge is hoping to duplicate his last Boston rebuild. They ended up in the dumps for one year then back in the playoffs because of IT, Crowder, Smart... then they added Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Horford, Kyrie... with cap space and draft capital the next few years.
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That does seem to be what he is thinking. Seems to me that his Boston experience was the exception and not the rule. Can he get lucky twice in a row?
 
gomretat said:
That does seem to be what he is thinking. Seems to me that his Boston experience was the exception and not the rule. Can he get lucky twice in a row?
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I think all the short rebuilds would be exceptions... Again... I think its plan A and if you don't get lucky you extend the rebuild. Its okay to be optimistic. Just don't shortcut the process if it isn't going exactly to plan.
 
Jingled said:
I think Clarkson's was frequently guilty of trying to do it all himself and not trusting his teammates last season as well.
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I think a lot of this not trusting team mates thing stemmed from the coach. Quin was either clueless how to get the team to play together, or he fostered it and and encouraged this hero-ball mentality. I am glad he is gone too.
 
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