John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine

[Gameface]

Did Biden Say You Won't Get COVID if You're Vaccinated?

Biden overstated the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccinations during a July 2021 town hall.

www.snopes.com

The guy who claimed "this is a virus of the unvaccinated" but now has gotten COVID what 3 times? Nobody seems to care about when the president(s) blatantly lies but that John Stockton is the worst.

You seem to misunderstand the difference between providing the information available at the time and lying.

Mutations have kept the virus ahead of vaccines. No one can reliably predict the behavior of future mutations or when/if a new dominant strain takes over.

But yeah, it was a "lie" while Stockton is doing what exactly?

 

[SteakNEggs]

You seem to misunderstand the difference between providing the information available at the time and lying.

Mutations have kept the virus ahead of vaccines. No one can reliably predict the behavior of future mutations or when/if a new dominant strain takes over.

But yeah, it was a "lie" while Stockton is doing what exactly?

I seem to understand that they had no clue what they were giving us and even pzifer admits that they had no clue if the vaccine stopped transmission. He lied. There was literally no evidence that the vaccine stopped transmission like the other highly tested vaccines do like polio and others Thriller said. This was an experimental drug fascistly mandated.

But i am curious. What information do you mean? Where did the US Government get the idea that the vaccine stopped COVID transmission when that information was non-existent to my knowledge.

As far as Stockton, I really don't care what he said. Despite the drama I guarantee you that he has hurt no one. Lol to think people are making decisions based off what some retired long gone basketball player thinks. It's nothing more that bullying, just as it was with Rogan for not sheepishly conforming to the authoritarian dictators.

 

[One Brow]

The guy who claimed "this is a virus of the unvaccinated" but now has gotten COVID what 3 times? Nobody seems to care about when the president(s) blatantly lies but that John Stockton is the worst.

The unvaccinated die about an order of magnitude more frequently than the unvaccinated. Biden's level of lying here is pretty typical for politicians.

Stockton's 'list of athletes' reminds me of McCarthy's 'list of communists'. It's largely fictional.

 

[One Brow]

Despite the drama I guarantee you that he has hurt no one. Lol to think people are making decisions based off what some retired long gone basketball player thinks.

He's added his voice to the antivax chorus. The effect is cumulative.

It's nothing more that bullying, just as it was with Rogan for not sheepishly conforming to the authoritarian dictators.

We have even less effect on Stockton (or Rogan) than you claim he has on antivaxxers.

 

[The Thriller]

I seem to understand that they had no clue what they were giving us and even pzifer admits that they had no clue if the vaccine stopped transmission.

Where are you getting this information from? Your understanding is that Covid vaccine companies didn’t know what they were injecting into people?

 

[fishonjazz]

Did Biden Say You Won't Get COVID if You're Vaccinated?

Biden overstated the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccinations during a July 2021 town hall.

www.snopes.com

The guy who claimed "this is a virus of the unvaccinated" but now has gotten COVID what 3 times? Nobody seems to care about when the president(s) blatantly lies but that John Stockton is the worst.

There was a time when it was a virus of the unvaccinated. Pretty much everyone dying and getting hospitalized was unvaccinated. Things do change though.
Also, biden is like 100 years old. I dont ever see the president speak but if i did i would take what he said with a grain of salt.


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[The Thriller]

There was a time when it was a virus of the unvaccinated. Pretty much everyone dying and getting hospitalized was unvaccinated. Things do change though.
Also, biden is like 100 years old. I dont ever see the president speak but if i did i would take what he said with a grain of salt.


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It’s weird to me that Trump was given every excuse in the book for the **** he said even when it was pretty obvious what he meant (******** countries, fine people on both sides, Zelensky I want you to do me a favor, fight like hell or you won’t have a country anymore) while Biden must be taken literally and no grace is given. No one, Biden included, ever claimed that the vaccine would be perfect. It’s weird to take him literally here that ONLY those who were unvaccinated were getting sick. Anyone with a brain that isn’t rotted out with tribalism understands what he was saying. It still remains true even with all the variants, vaccination is the best weapon we have to prevent transmission, severe illness, and death. Does it still happen? Yah. But it significantly helps. Vaccines train our immune systems how to fight against disease.

What people like Steak is arguing against is like arguing against brakes and seat belts because they aren’t 100 percent effective at preventing accidents, injuries, and death. Of course people still die with all the safety features our cars have. But wearing a seat belt and driving a car with good brakes and airbags significantly helps keep me safe.

At the time, the Biden admin was desperately trying to push mass vaccination so the country’s health and well-being could be put back on track. It’s sad to me that Republicans decided that in order to oppose Biden and slow the recovery to improve their chances of retaking power for the midterms, they resisted vaccination. If I were Republican, I’d be angry at my leaders playing politics with my life. I’d be angry with leaders who spewed disinformation about Covid and recommended quack cures like horse dewormer and flashlights up my ***. But then again, my brain isn’t rotted out with tribalism.

 

[Bucknutz]

At the time, the Biden admin was desperately trying to push mass vaccination so the country’s health and well-being could be put back on track. It’s sad to me that Republicans decided that in order to oppose Biden and slow the recovery to improve their chances of retaking power for the midterms, they resisted vaccination. If I were Republican, I’d be angry at my leaders playing politics with my life. I’d be angry with leaders who spewed disinformation about Covid and recommended quack cures like horse dewormer and flashlights up my ***. But then again, my brain isn’t rotted out with tribalism.

The same way the Democrats did to Trump?
A left wing news article…

Democrats Fear Trump Will Rush Unsafe Vaccine To Help His Reelection Bid

Republicans respond by calling Democrats “the party of anti-vaxxers.”

www.huffpost.com

Kamala, Schumer and Warren all against the Vaccine because Trump was POTUS. They were questioning the quality of the vaccine because it was being rushed and not transparent about the details. It sounds just like people who have hesitancy now. Worried about side effects and long term issues.

Are you angry with these leaders? I mean it’s the Democrat Vice President saying she would not take it if Trump was pushing it. He pushed it and has taken it.

Your brain is rotted out with Tribalism. You are apart of the far left tribe and can’t see this stuff happens on the left and right all the time.

Also please show a leader that says to stick a flashlight up your *** to fight Covid.
Or are you trying to make fun of this quote?

“Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but we’re going to test it,” Trump said. “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through the skin or some other way.”

Then he goes on to say:

“I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there’s any way that you can apply light and heat to cure, you know? If you could, and maybe you can, maybe you can’t,” Trump said. “Again, I say, maybe you can, maybe you can’t. I’m not a doctor, but I’m like a person who has a good — you know what.”

This was 6 weeks into the pandemic. No one had answers back then. Yet you are still holding on to this like he was promoting through the pandemic. This is what happens to a rotted out brain, can’t see things for what they really are.

 

[The Thriller]

The same way the Democrats did to Trump?
A left wing news article…

Democrats Fear Trump Will Rush Unsafe Vaccine To Help His Reelection Bid

Republicans respond by calling Democrats “the party of anti-vaxxers.”

www.huffpost.com

Kamala, Schumer and Warren all against the Vaccine because Trump was POTUS. They were questioning the quality of the vaccine because it was being rushed and not transparent about the details. It sounds just like people who have hesitancy now. Worried about side effects and long term issues.

Are you angry with these leaders? I mean it’s the Democrat Vice President saying she would not take it if Trump was pushing it. He pushed it and has taken it.

Your brain is rotted out with Tribalism. You are apart of the far left tribe and can’t see this stuff happens on the left and right all the time.

Also please show a leader that says to stick a flashlight up your *** to fight Covid.
Or are you trying to make fun of this quote?

“Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but we’re going to test it,” Trump said. “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through the skin or some other way.”

Then he goes on to say:

“I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there’s any way that you can apply light and heat to cure, you know? If you could, and maybe you can, maybe you can’t,” Trump said. “Again, I say, maybe you can, maybe you can’t. I’m not a doctor, but I’m like a person who has a good — you know what.”

This was 6 weeks into the pandemic. No one had answers back then. Yet you are still holding on to this like he was promoting through the pandemic. This is what happens to a rotted out brain, can’t see things for what they really are.

Absolutely I was concerned in the spring and summer of 2020 that Trump would rush a vaccine, intimidate the CDC, lie about its safety, and use it for re-election. Did you like miss the Mueller report, 1st impeachment, and all those health press conferences he did where he suggested it would go away by Easter or we try malaria treatments or inject disinfectant? Trump’s personality type to commit immorality is unparalleled in American presidential history. He lost credibility among most Americans a long time ago. Those of us with brains not rotted out with tribalism recognized that and voted his *** out. Sorry!

His top priority was re-election, not our health and well-being. That’s what a completely immoral and narcissistic president obsessed with staying in power would do. That’s why he attempted to overturn the 2020 election. That’s a completely different situation from the Biden administration in 2021.

You guys can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim that you’re merely treating Biden the same way other treated Trump while ignoring the mountain of immoral and insane acts that ONLY Trump, not Biden, did. You can’t claim that you’re just reciprocating Democratic vaccine hesitancy under Trump as under Biden because by that time the vaccines had proven to be safe and effective in mid 2021. Finally, I know your ilk doesn’t want to admit this, Biden isn’t a narcissistic sociopath who’ll do and say anything to stay in power. That’s another reason. Biden has credibility among us who haven’t had brains rotted out by tribalism, Trump doesn’t because of all the insane lies he told over the years.

Sorry man, but Trump and Biden aren’t the same and the situations are completely different for reasons that have nothing to do with tribalism. Not everything has to be tribal man.

 

[The Thriller]

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MAGA:

 

[SteakNEggs]

It’s weird to me that Trump was given every excuse in the book for the **** he said even when it was pretty obvious what he meant (******** countries, fine people on both sides, Zelensky I want you to do me a favor, fight like hell or you won’t have a country anymore) while Biden must be taken literally and no grace is given. No one, Biden included, ever claimed that the vaccine would be perfect. It’s weird to take him literally here that ONLY those who were unvaccinated were getting sick. Anyone with a brain that isn’t rotted out with tribalism understands what he was saying. It still remains true even with all the variants, vaccination is the best weapon we have to prevent transmission, severe illness, and death. Does it still happen? Yah. But it significantly helps. Vaccines train our immune systems how to fight against disease.

What people like Steak is arguing against is like arguing against brakes and seat belts because they aren’t 100 percent effective at preventing accidents, injuries, and death. Of course people still die with all the safety features our cars have. But wearing a seat belt and driving a car with good brakes and airbags significantly helps keep me safe.

At the time, the Biden admin was desperately trying to push mass vaccination so the country’s health and well-being could be put back on track. It’s sad to me that Republicans decided that in order to oppose Biden and slow the recovery to improve their chances of retaking power for the midterms, they resisted vaccination. If I were Republican, I’d be angry at my leaders playing politics with my life. I’d be angry with leaders who spewed disinformation about Covid and recommended quack cures like horse dewormer and flashlights up my ***. But then again, my brain isn’t rotted out with tribalism.

Research the first American polio vaccine. The Cutter incident to be precise

And just to counter your point. Democrats started the anti-vaccine message. Oh and **** Trump he was wrong too.


"If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it."

-Kamala


"The way he (Trump) talks about the vaccine is not particularly rational. He’s talking about it being ready, he’s going to talk about moving it quicker than the scientists think it should be moved … . People don’t believe that he’s telling the truth, therefore they’re not at all certain they’re going to take the vaccine. And one more thing: If and when the vaccine comes, it’s not likely to go through all the tests that need to be done, and the trials that are needed to be done."
-Biden

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine/2020/09/16/2ffbea6a-f831-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html

 

[SteakNEggs]

Absolutely I was concerned in the spring and summer of 2020 that Trump would rush a vaccine, intimidate the CDC, lie about its safety, and use it for re-election. Did you like miss the Mueller report, 1st impeachment, and all those health press conferences he did where he suggested it would go away by Easter or we try malaria treatments or inject disinfectant? Trump’s personality type to commit immorality is unparalleled in American presidential history. He lost credibility among most Americans a long time ago. Those of us with brains not rotted out with tribalism recognized that and voted his *** out. Sorry!

His top priority was re-election, not our health and well-being. That’s what a completely immoral and narcissistic president obsessed with staying in power would do. That’s why he attempted to overturn the 2020 election. That’s a completely different situation from the Biden administration in 2021.

You guys can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim that you’re merely treating Biden the same way other treated Trump while ignoring the mountain of immoral and insane acts that ONLY Trump, not Biden, did. You can’t claim that you’re just reciprocating Democratic vaccine hesitancy under Trump as under Biden because by that time the vaccines had proven to be safe and effective in mid 2021. Finally, I know your ilk doesn’t want to admit this, Biden isn’t a narcissistic sociopath who’ll do and say anything to stay in power. That’s another reason. Biden has credibility among us who haven’t had brains rotted out by tribalism, Trump doesn’t because of all the insane lies he told over the years.

Sorry man, but Trump and Biden aren’t the same and the situations are completely different for reasons that have nothing to do with tribalism. Not everything has to be tribal man.

Hypocrisy at its finest. Even the most Trump hating scientists give Trump administration mass credit for his part in the creation. The only difference is that Biden told you to take it not Trump.

Sorry man, no hate but it's true. I don't even like Trump.

 

[SteakNEggs]

It’s weird to me that Trump was given every excuse in the book for the **** he said even when it was pretty obvious what he meant (******** countries, fine people on both sides, Zelensky I want you to do me a favor, fight like hell or you won’t have a country anymore) while Biden must be taken literally and no grace is given. No one, Biden included, ever claimed that the vaccine would be perfect. It’s weird to take him literally here that ONLY those who were unvaccinated were getting sick. Anyone with a brain that isn’t rotted out with tribalism understands what he was saying. It still remains true even with all the variants, vaccination is the best weapon we have to prevent transmission, severe illness, and death. Does it still happen? Yah. But it significantly helps. Vaccines train our immune systems how to fight against disease.

What people like Steak is arguing against is like arguing against brakes and seat belts because they aren’t 100 percent effective at preventing accidents, injuries, and death. Of course people still die with all the safety features our cars have. But wearing a seat belt and driving a car with good brakes and airbags significantly helps keep me safe.

At the time, the Biden admin was desperately trying to push mass vaccination so the country’s health and well-being could be put back on track. It’s sad to me that Republicans decided that in order to oppose Biden and slow the recovery to improve their chances of retaking power for the midterms, they resisted vaccination. If I were Republican, I’d be angry at my leaders playing politics with my life. I’d be angry with leaders who spewed disinformation about Covid and recommended quack cures like horse dewormer and flashlights up my ***. But then again, my brain isn’t rotted out with tribalism.

Democrats really need to get over Trump. Biden lying to our faces has nothing to do with Trump. It's nothing but deflection

 

[SteakNEggs]

Where are you getting this information from? Your understanding is that Covid vaccine companies didn’t know what they were injecting into people?

Again no hate but if you didn't know this then that says a lot. So I ask again... Where did Biden who heads the US government get the lie that it did stop transmission? Lying to people, the president of the United States lying to people is excused but John Stockton is the devil. The sheer hypocrisy... And people wonder why so many don't trust the government.

Claims that Pfizer didn't know if COVID vaccine prevented transmission before rollout are missing context

Pfizer’s clinical trial for its COVID-19 vaccine was designed to evaluate how effective the shot was at preventing infection, not transmission.

www.google.com

 

[fishonjazz]

Hypocrisy at its finest. Even the most Trump hating scientists give Trump administration mass credit for his part in the creation. The only difference is that Biden told you to take it not Trump.

Sorry man, no hate but it's true. I don't even like Trump.

I would never take medicine based on a president’s recommendation. I listen to healthcare professionals for my healthcare.


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[SteakNEggs]

I would never take medicine based on a president’s recommendation. I listen to healthcare professionals for my healthcare.


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Yet you were ok with the government unconstitutionally forcing people against their will to take an experimental drug? I think that's a point you all miss. A vast majority of people are not anti-vaccine, most are anti- Authoritarian. Specifically the African American community. I don't agree but vaccines are also against certain religions. Again many courts found the mandates against the law.

Personally I think it's one of the biggest human rights violations in American history.

 

[The Thriller]

Hypocrisy at its finest. Even the most Trump hating scientists give Trump administration mass credit for his part in the creation. The only difference is that Biden told you to take it not Trump.

Sorry man, no hate but it's true. I don't even like Trump.

You’re talking about two different subjects here.

 

[SteakNEggs]

You’re talking about two different subjects here.

You might be, but I was talking about Biden lying that the vaccine stopped COVID and you will not get it and how it's ok for him to lie("the virus is over") but John Stockton a nobody is the devil.

It's astonishingly absurd. There's misinformation everywhere on both sides. The only difference is Stockton went against the authority.

 

[The Thriller]

Democrats really need to get over Trump. Biden lying to our faces has nothing to do with Trump. It's nothing but deflection

Um. No. Tribalism has rotted out your brain. Biden calling this pandemic in the summer of 2021 a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn’t a lie nor is it comparable to the ridiculous lies and absurd Covid cures Trump told on a daily basis throughout 2020. You guys really need to grow up. Politics and history didn’t begin in 2016.

 

[The Thriller]

You might be, but I was talking about Biden lying that the vaccine stopped COVID and you will not get it and how it's ok for him to lie("the virus is over") but John Stockton is the devil.

It's astonishingly absurd

This has already been addressed in post 67. The fact that you haven’t answered the question posed by me to you in post 65 is interesting. Sorry, but we don’t only get to talk about the subjects you want and how you want to frame them.