John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine

[SteakNEggs]

And i want to make it clear. I am not anti-vax, I am anti-force people against their will and fascistly bullying them into submission. Thus why things like a creator of the vaccine admitting there could be dire consequences is a big deal. I understand if you were one of the ones who forced and bullied people why this needs to be swept under the rug but for those of us who questioned the experimental drug and were bullied against, hearing one of the main people at Pfizer admitting EXACTLY what many of us were worried about is a possibility, such as severe problems down the road that's extremely substantial, is extremely relevant. Again... I understand why some that were pretty terrible humans to others for not conforming to the cult want this to go away. It was pretty messed up time for them. There was a lot of hate, venom, and vitriol spewed at innocent people who simply didn't trust the government and a company that gouges life saving drugs 10,000%.

 

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Because one of the main guys at pfizer coming out and saying that the vaccine potentially coming from a lab is important to some.

Sure, that has potentially been true for three years. there is no good reason to think it is actually true, but it is possible.

... stop having companies like pfizer mutating viruse and making them "more potent".

There is no evidence that Pfizer is doing this (and certainly not from the video you shared). You're just scare-mongering.

The insanity that a guy that helps create the vaccine in a lab stating he thinks it comes from a lab

I noticed you dropped the potentially here, another sign you're scare-mongering.

should be very concerning if you actually care about the virus, not the political spectrum like you do.

Are you really so unaware of your limitations that you can discern my unstated motives for talking about this issue?

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that the vaccine could very well have severe side effects disproves what people like you have been saying for years.

This is very silly. Almost anything that isn't water could have severe side-effects. However, so far the side effects that have actually appeared are less severe than those from getting covid.

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting they are doing gain of function is not only illegal but even as Walker points out, the public does not want this.

Good thing that there is no evidence this is happening.

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that Covid is a cash cow is pretty substantial to me.

Right, because you hate capitalism in medicine.

You even seem to agree that Pharma is corrupt. This same company now is going to inflate the vaccine 10,000% according to the article I posted

Money corrupts, and and huge amounts of money corrupt absolutely. That's not evidence there is something wrong with the vaccine.

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that they basically buy politicians so they can have a cushy job after their work is done reeks of corruption.

Regulatory capture is an issue all across government, but it's not evidence that there is something wrong with the vaccine.

I could go on...

You could, but you still haven't offered a good reason why the video you shared is important in anyway, and I don't see your arguments getting any better.

 

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... I am anti-force people against their will and fascistly bullying them into submission.

Good thing that never happened with regard to the covid vaccines.

There was a lot of hate, venom, and vitriol spewed at innocent people who simply didn't trust the government and a company that gouges life saving drugs 10,000%.

People who value ghosts and goblins more than their neighbor's lives.

 

[SteakNEggs]

You could, but you still haven't offered a good reason why the video you shared is important in anyway, and I don't see your arguments getting any better.

I actually did, you just choose not to listen. As I said, you have blinders on because you were one of the bullies. To us that were bullied having a main at the company that created the vaccine saying that the vaccine could be potentially dangerous is a huge admittance. It literally confirms what many were hesitant about. To you that may not be important but to us who were bullied, hated on, called "tribal" by bigoted idiots, it's extremely substantial to us.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Good thing that never happened with regard to the covid vaccines.


People who value ghosts and goblins more than their neighbor's lives.

Yet if the neighbor is vaccinated how is their live in jeopardy? You all love to admit the vaccine was ineffective in many ways subconsciously. If my neighbor was vaccinated, he shouldn't have to worry. You are admitting the vaccine is ineffective. If the neighbor was vaccinated they shouldn't have to worry about their lives... Right?

 

[Gameface]

Just want to throw in a random thought here.

If you believe that guy is a "top guy" at Pfizer and that what he said is true then many many scenarios (theories) presented in this thread and the main covid thread about the virus and the vaccine must be abandoned. I'd certainly hold any poster in high regard if they self-identified things they had suggested that they now know are not true and maybe not even possible. It doesn't have to be because of this Project Veritas thing, but just stuff that you now know compared to what you thought might be true in the past.

 

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I actually did, you just choose not to listen.

You offered "potentially", which is meaningless.

As I said, you have blinders on because you were one of the bullies.

Yawn. You'll noticed I haven't called you names. Your arguments just suck, and so you resort to name-calling.

To us that were bullied

By whom? Who threatened you, specifically, and with what?

... the vaccine could be potentially dangerous is a huge admittance. It literally confirms what many were hesitant about.

The word "potentially" negates the word "confirm" in your rhetoric.

 

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Yet if the neighbor is vaccinated how is their live in jeopardy?

No vaccine offers perfect protection. My vaccination protects both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.

You all love to admit the vaccine was ineffective in many ways subconsciously.

"Effective" =/= "perfect protection".

If the neighbor was vaccinated they shouldn't have to worry about their lives... Right?

Wrong, and uneducated.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Yawn. You'll noticed I haven't called you names. Your arguments just suck, and so you resort to name-calling.

Wrong, and uneducated.

Sure...

 

[SteakNEggs]

I do want to thank OB for admitting that the vaccine doesn't protect you and that even the fully vaccinated can have issues.

Another check mark for those who were worried about the experimental jab.

 

[fishonjazz]

For asking people to provide simple evidence of what they claim? I'll break soon enough as it's clear nobody can answer. As I have continually said, if the guy was fake and didn't even exist then Pfizer would've addressed that when they claimed they weren't mutating viruses while claiming they are "engineering" viruses in the same sentence.

No. I was saying you might need to take a break just because you seem very very upset. Happens to me sometimes when I get to arguing with people on jazzfanz. I was genuinely just trying to give some good advice. I appreciate when people tell me to take a break or chill pill if you will when Im in a long and heated discussion on here.

 

[SteakNEggs]

No. I was saying you might need to take a break just because you seem very very upset. Happens to me sometimes when I get to arguing with people on jazzfanz. I was genuinely just trying to give some good advice. I appreciate when people tell me to take a break or chill pill if you will when Im in a long and heated discussion on here.

I'm not upset though and never was. I appreciate you telling me, and you seem like a cool dude but you were wrong. Nothing I said outside of calling the POS Thriller what he is was out of anger. I may be a little pushy to get an answer but I'm not angry about it. I like having discourse, problem is, only Red and OB are capable thus far.

 

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Sure...

There's nothing wrong with a person regarding being uneducated. Everyone is uneducated in most of the world's knowledge. It's not a personal failing on your part.

I do want to thank OB for admitting that the vaccine doesn't protect you and that even the fully vaccinated can have issues.

That's so far from what I said that I have trouble assuming it is not an outright lie. 95% protection is protection. Your saying since some roofs leak, no one should have a roof over their heads.

Another check mark for those who were worried about the experimental jab.

This reveals your bias. Your looking to check off boxes that support your position, rather than find evidence that supports or undermines your position. You'll only truly be free if you carefully consider that everything you believe is wrong.

 

[SteakNEggs]

There's nothing wrong with a person regarding being uneducated. Everyone is uneducated in most of the world's knowledge. It's not a personal failing on your part.

Lol that's funny. You were trying to insult me while saying you don't call names the post before.

At least you accomplished the goal of turning the subject into grade school bs drama, not the actual topic Mr. Highly educated.

 

[SteakNEggs]

This reveals your bias. Your looking to check off boxes that support your position, rather than find evidence that supports or undermines your position. You'll only truly be free if you carefully consider that everything you believe is wrong.

Lol at one of the higher ups in Pfizer saying their own vaccine can be dangerous ON VIDEO not being evidence. Posting left wing sources that claim the vaccine can affect reproduction like the guys says. Posting a highly respected biologist that you called what a "nut job" with no evidence outside of some **** blog? Posting Pfizers own response where they admit to "engineering"(gain of function). I have provided a lot of outside evidence. I'm not the one claiming a guy doesn't even exist with no evidence and that what a higher up in Pfizer is lying with no evidence... That is you guys. You guys are pushing conspiracies not evidence.

Now...

What evidence have you provided? Be specific please Mr Educated. Outside of simply being a contrarian with nothing to back up your claims?

Btw it's "you're" not "your" educated guy. I'm far from perfect myself and usually couldn't care less about something like this but let's not talk about education when you fail to use grade school education.

 

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Lol that's funny. You were trying to insult me while saying you don't call names the post before.

Again, it's not an insult to be uneducated. For example, I'm quite uneducated about Florida state politics, serving on Naval ship, gun ownership, or competitive swimming pools, and have been taught by others on the board regarding all these topics.

At least you accomplished the goal of turning the subject into grade school bs drama, not the actual topic Mr. Highly educated.

I'm only very lightly educated on vaccines, but I am happy to share.

Lol at one of the higher ups in Pfizer saying their own vaccine can be dangerous ON VIDEO not being evidence.

I understand the difference between "can be" vs. "is". Any legitimate medicine can be dangerous. For example, we still have no idea how acetaminophen works, and we don't have any assurance of it's long-term effects, aside from not having detected any so far. It's the same for mRNA vaccines.

Posting left wing sources that claim the vaccine can affect reproduction like the guys says.

Again, there's a difference between "can" and "has".

Posting a highly respected biologist that you called what a "nut job" with no evidence outside of some **** blog?

You don't claiming to cure cancer with vitamin C is nuts?

Since Ebright is posting out of his field of expertise, he's not an authority on the likelihood of a lab origin for covid.

Posting Pfizers own response where they admit to "engineering"(gain of function).

Engineering is often for loss of function.

I have provided a lot of outside evidence.

You posted the poorly stated, out-of-context suppositions of an inebriated executive, and then misrepresented what he said. That's not evidence.

I'm not the one claiming a guy doesn't even exist with no evidence and that what a higher up in Pfizer is lying with no evidence... That is you guys.

I have not made such a claim. Do you often get people confused?

What evidence have you provided?

What position have I taken that requires evidence, for you?

Outside of simply being a contrarian with nothing to back up your claims?

What claims would you like back-up for?

Btw it's "you're" not "your" educated guy.

Thank you. It's good to reminded of one's fallibility.

 

[SteakNEggs]

You posted the poorly stated, out-of-context suppositions of an inebriated executive, and then misrepresented what he said. That's not evidence.





What position have I taken that requires evidence, for you?

Start here, what did I take out of context exactly? I posted his very own words. What exactly was poorly stated? He was pretty spot on and articulate imo. What part was misrepresented exactly of his own words?

 

[One Brow]

Start here, what did I take out of context exactly? I posted his very own words.

I didn't say *you* took things out of context. You just failed to notice was taken out of context. The Project Veritas video is heavily edited to remove context, and seems to be out of chronological order.

 

[SteakNEggs]

I didn't say *you* took things out of context. You just failed to notice was taken out of context. The Project Veritas video is heavily edited to remove context, and seems to be out of chronological order.

LMFAO that makes absolutely no sense and is your go-to typical non-answer. Now answer the question. What was taken out of context specifically? Don't be like your friends and make up lies and not even have the courage to be specific. It's cowardly. Be yourself. Use words. Back up your claim. That's what educated people do instead of make claims then move the goalposts like you just did. You said I(that's me) "misrepresented what he said". That's pretty damn close to saying I took things out of context lol. I mean, lets not be disingenuous here. Explain yourself. What did I misrepresent(take out of context same difference)?

 

[Douchebag K]

Pfizer Responds to Research Claims | Pfizer

New York, N.Y., January 27, 2023 – Allegations have recently been made related to gain of function and directed evolution research at Pfizer and the company would like to set the record straight.

www.pfizer.com

lol interesting that the language has changed when listing the potential side effects. It's no longer "incredibly rare" but "very low" Also all of a sudden it's important to consult with your doctor with everything related to vaccination. Now Pfizer say it's important to discuss if you're pregnant or breastfeeding in assessing vaccination ..??? Such interesting statements now as "These vaccines may not protect everyone" and my personal favourite after listing many recognised side effects they go on to say "These may not be all the possible side effects of these vaccines" All while including no actual numbers.


According to this recent paper analysis shows an estimate of serious adverse reactions at approximately 1 in 800 for mRNA vaccines.

Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults - PubMed

The excess risk of serious adverse events found in our study points to the need for formal harm-benefit analyses, particularly those that are stratified according to risk of serious COVID-19 outcomes. These analyses will require public release of participant level datasets.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Farcical.