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RandyForRubio said:
I like Dick a lot, been on him for a long time. Hawkins is a better shooter, moves well. I think he had good upside as well.
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They both have potential, but as is the Hawk is a much more complete higher floor prospect. as is dick sucks outside of his catch and shoot ability. I can hit 50% from the porch to the garage if I am sober and nobody is defending me smh It takes a lot more than head height and a jumper to make any impact going forward. My biggest concerns with Grady is his weak frame
 
Sorta interested in taking a look at Tshiebwe, Drez 2.0 in the second round. Size, athletic, amazing rebounder, high motor… obviously, doesn’t have much of a game outside of the paint. But maybe worth taking a look in the 2nd round?
 
The Thriller said:
Sorta interested in taking a look at Tshiebwe, Drez 2.0 in the second round. Size, athletic, amazing rebounder, high motor… obviously, doesn’t have much of a game outside of the paint. But maybe worth taking a look in the 2nd round?
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We don’t have any seconds and I doubt we trade for one unless we moved a first in a different deal.
 
Eddie Zero said:
I like Agbaji as well ( you are clearly the biggest OA homer on here and it's clear that is your reasoning for this semi stupid take) in fact there is no way Ochai gets that much usage without being a better on ball player. Hawkins is a much better on ball guard with a handles and a first step so as a playmaker he is slowly beginning to be given credit in that area as far as projected ability in the NBA. The innefficient label on Hawkins is weak argument imo, he is arguably the best shooter in this draft class, but with all the attention he has gotten this season from other teams defenses game planned against him his stat line aint the greatest. He is a legit 6'4 no shoes minimum imo and he don't play barefoot anyway. He is 6'5 on paper that is more than big enough.
The length is obvious as well lol
Granted that team is stacked and it can be a little misleading so I guess you missed it

btw dick sucks aaaahhhahhhahh
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My OA/MJ mashup is clearly a joke, lol, I've never hyped or hated on him.

Hawkins is a better on ball guard but shot at the rim less frequently (21% / 24%) and is a worse finisher (54% / 64%). Not sure how you can say he projects better as a playmaker when he has the ball in his hands more than D!ck does and only averaged 1.3 AST / 1.4 TO this year. Also not sure how calling someone that is a career 39% shooter from the field in the Big East inefficient is a weak argument.

Give me the guy that's bigger, more athletic, that shot better in a better conference, and is two years younger.
 
Dick would probably be a Gordon Hayward type and probably is a better player than Black. But the stupid effect on the Internet/Twitter crowd. Another white player, plus that name just makes the jokes write themselves....ugh...
 
whatthe said:
Dick would probably be a Gordon Hayward type and probably is a better player than Black. But the stupid effect on the Internet/Twitter crowd. Another white player, plus that name just makes the jokes write themselves....ugh...
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Gradey is one of the few guys that provides a high floor / high ceiling combo. Even if he never develops as a creator or playmaker he's Reggie Bullock but if he develops more to his game he can be somewhere between Bojan / Hayward.
 
whatthe said:
Dick would probably be a Gordon Hayward type and probably is a better player than Black. But the stupid effect on the Internet/Twitter crowd. Another white player, plus that name just makes the jokes write themselves....ugh...
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That’s exactly who he reminds me of, Hayward.
 
YoungJefe said:
My OA/MJ mashup is clearly a joke, lol, I've never hyped or hated on him.

Hawkins is a better on ball guard but shot at the rim less frequently (21% / 24%) and is a worse finisher (54% / 64%). Not sure how you can say he projects better as a playmaker when he has the ball in his hands more than D!ck does and only averaged 1.3 AST / 1.4 TO this year. Also not sure how calling someone that is a career 39% shooter from the field in the Big East inefficient is a weak argument.

Give me the guy that's bigger, more athletic, that shot better in a better conference, and is two years younger.
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Hawkins is the best shooter in the nba that comes out of this draft - **** his stats in college. Ochai is not enough of a reason to pass up a future superstar.
Dick could become a Klay type, if absolutely everything goes right. it wont
 
The Thriller said:
That’s exactly who he reminds me of, Hayward.
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lol Grady Dick is not even remotely the loose moving high iq do it all prospect that Gordy was. The Dick has no perceivable path to stardom without years of playing 3rd fiddle to some actual players. His shooting % are impressive in a vacuum but beyond that he aint got **** going for him.
 
oldtimer said:
Hope it tay hen instead of any of those
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what makes you think he wont be gone before 9? If any gm's see him as the prospect that so many on here do, No chance Hendricks is available at 9.
But he probably will be there, and so will better options for most orgs.
 
Eddie Zero said:
Hawkins is the best shooter in the nba that comes out of this draft - **** his stats in college. Ochai is not enough of a reason to pass up a future superstar.
Dick could become a Klay type, if absolutely everything goes right. it wont
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I’m concerned that Hawkins doesn’t have the athleticism, strength, and aggressiveness to warrant a lottery pick. Have you seen him drive and finish in traffic in the paint? Do you see him demanding the ball? Other than shoot catch and shoot 3s off a pick, what does he do? Defend? Rebound? Create for others? He’s mostly invisible with the exception of a few short bursts of 3s in these college games being defended by smaller players than in the nba.

We should maximize on the length available in this draft. Having positionless players that can do multiple things is the future of the NBA. I’m concerned that Hawkins just can’t do enough.
 
Eddie Zero said:
lol Grady Dick is not even remotely the loose moving high iq do it all prospect that Gordy was. The Dick has no perceivable path to stardom without years of playing 3rd fiddle to some actual players. His shooting % are impressive in a vacuum but beyond that he aint got **** going for him.
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Dick could potentially be like a bigger Hornacek. There's quite a bit to his game if he can unlock it. He's got some handle. He's aggressive driving the ball. He's got touch on floaters. He can make basic reads. He can run a break.
 
Eddie Zero said:
Hawkins is the best shooter in the nba that comes out of this draft - **** his stats in college. Ochai is not enough of a reason to pass up a future superstar.
Dick could become a Klay type, if absolutely everything goes right. it wont
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I wouldn’t pass on someone I deemed a future star for him. I just think Gradey is a better prospect. He’s bigger, more athletic, just as good of a shooter and almost 2 years younger.
 
YoungJefe said:
I wouldn’t pass on someone I deemed a future star for him. I just think Gradey is a better prospect. He’s bigger, more athletic, just as good of a shooter and almost 2 years younger.
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we shall see. I dont agree he is more athletic at all and obviously the head height is somewhat of a joke to me, when you are talking about a dick possessing a t-rex wingspan - unless you think those 2 years (which is a stretch lol) to say the least, equates to him growing a wingspan to match his head height .
I have more confidence Hawkins floor makes him the better choice and the more like it to make a big jump because he has the clutch "it" factor
 
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