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2023 Trade Rumors and Gossip Involving the Jazz

Check my post history. I've been saying for months now that Doncic has been Ainge's priority all along. There's footage of Ainge talking and laughing with Luka during warm-ups prior to the All Star game. Luka conveys his discontent and drops rumors he may request out. Ainge seeks out every deal possible to acquire draft assets and cap space.

Ainge knows what it takes to win a championship. He wants his top five player and only OKC can make a better offer, and they've already got Shai at the point.

Things can change, but as of right now, everything is lining up for Luka to be a Jazzman - and Ainge will still have enough picks left over to shape the rest of the roster around him, Lauri and Kessler.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Especially considering new rules that prevent super teams.
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It won't prevent super teams per se... but may really limit what they can put around them. Like you can still have multiple stars but you will be limited to just having minimum guys around them or retaining your own FA at a massive cost.

All it really means is like Milwaukee wouldn't be able to sign Joe Ingles... and Warriors couldn't sign Donte... and clips wouldn't have signed Wall... and that they will pay more in tax. The loss of cap exceptions and some of the trade stipulations will hurt a bit... the big thing is the money most likely... teams that far over the cap typically are pretty good so the draft penalty isn't much of anything (GS being able to tank when Steph got hurt being the exception).

The penalty is massive for teams like Brooklyn, Atlanta, Milwaukee now since they don't really have multiple stars but have a bunch of good players with big salaries... and now even if they wanted to pay the price they will have issues filling in the roster potentially.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It won't prevent super teams per se... but may really limit what they can put around them. Like you can still have multiple stars but you will be limited to just having minimum guys around them or retaining your own FA at a massive cost.

All it really means is like Milwaukee wouldn't be able to sign Joe Ingles... and Warriors couldn't sign Donte... and clips wouldn't have signed Wall... and that they will pay more in tax. The loss of cap exceptions and some of the trade stipulations will hurt a bit... the big thing is the money most likely... teams that far over the cap typically are pretty good so the draft penalty isn't much of anything (GS being able to tank when Steph got hurt being the exception).

The penalty is massive for teams like Brooklyn, Atlanta, Milwaukee now since they don't really have multiple stars but have a bunch of good players with big salaries... and now even if they wanted to pay the price they will have issues filling in the roster potentially.
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It will level the playing field just a little is all... If there is a SUPER team it will be stars and scrubs... they likely will lose the Otto Porter Jr. types that sign at a slight discount to try and ring chase.

Like Denver maybe loses Bruce Brown in FA now... It gives me some pause about getting a guy like Dame as a big contract might be more punitive than just money now.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Luka is generational. But not really a fan of giving up every single asset we’ve acquired to get him. I’d rather just play it out.
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Luka is interesting. He's considered the most "heliocentric" player in the league. Will Hardy's offense last year was based on ball movement and athleticism. Luka is somewhat the antithesis of this, but he's just such a visionary and skilled player. The thing that bothers me is his whining and primadona attitude on the court. It's also not 100% clear that other players like playing with him.
 
I'd be more than willing to give up Donovans picks or Rudy's picks + maybe the Lakers pick but not both
 
Flc said:
Check my post history. I've been saying for months now that Doncic has been Ainge's priority all along. There's footage of Ainge talking and laughing with Luka during warm-ups prior to the All Star game. Luka conveys his discontent and drops rumors he may request out. Ainge seeks out every deal possible to acquire draft assets and cap space.

Ainge knows what it takes to win a championship. He wants his top five player and only OKC can make a better offer, and they've already got Shai at the point.

Things can change, but as of right now, everything is lining up for Luka to be a Jazzman - and Ainge will still have enough picks left over to shape the rest of the roster around him, Lauri and Kessler.
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Which all star game? Ainge claimed he was going to Mexico or the Caribbean or something rather than being here for the weekend.
 
I need some help here what would Doncic trade look like?

How many picks?

I figure Sexton and Agbaji would be the basis. Would Kessler have to be part of it?

Would Doncic and Markkanen be enough to compete?

Would this years picks be part of it?
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Luka is interesting. He's considered the most "heliocentric" player in the league. Will Hardy's offense last year was based on ball movement and athleticism. Luka is somewhat the antithesis of this, but he's just such a visionary and skilled player. The thing that bothers me is his whining and primadona attitude on the court. It's also not 100% clear that other players like playing with him.
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I disagree with this. The Jazz were in the bottom third off passes made and top third in average amount of time per touch. They were not moving the ball around a lot compared to the rest of the league. The reason why the offense was good was because the Jazz were good at offensive rebounding, and that has nothing to do with ball movement. While I would say the Jazz were big, I wouldn't say they were particularly athletic.

When Conley was still on the Jazz, he had the ball a ton when you look at the guys who had the ball as much as him he was not nearly as good as them. Really, it was Conley and Clarkson doing all the playmaking for the Jazz. THT was was one of the most ball dominant players in the league when he was starting with Ochai. In the last 15 games of the season, he was the second most ball dominant player in the league.

Reality is, Luka would fit like a glove with how the Jazz played this last season. Of course a coach is going to change his gameplan when a drastic shift in personnel happens, but the Jazz would not being a lot different to accommodate Luka and vice versa.
 
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