And when he doesn’t get exposed will you acknowledge it was the system / lack of defense anywhere else on the court that got exposed?
The elephant in the room (Rudy Gobert)
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Douchebag K
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Exactly. He’s not playing with human turnstiles now
FrenchJazzFa
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Actually i'm happy for Rudy who can play well only because he is surround with good players who are willing to defend. Not same poor Don who struggle to be at 50% because he is surround by poor teammates 
I like Rudy but we got a mint by trading him (so I feel zero seller's remorse) and he put up better overall numbers with us than he does with Minnesota. Plus he's 31 and I doubt he magically gets better. MN made the move to try and compete for a title. We'll see if it pays off for them.
Keyonte saved that trade from being a disaster.
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We don't really know that. What if we draft 3 hall of famers with 3 of the picks we still have coming to us
We don't know the full outcome of the gobert or Mitchell trades for quite a few more years.
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Douchebag K
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He sure magically got better the past offseason
Tremendous Upside
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Way way too early to say that.
Keyonte hasn't been good, and that's putting it nicely. He just has a ridiculously long leash and gets lots of minutes and touches, so he puts up some counting stats for a terrible team.
Yes, he's very young and no, we shouldn't be putting a ceiling on him yet. But there's two sides to that coin. We don't know if he's even a building block yet.
He was rotten last season and is better this season however this season isn't his best statistical season
Rudy looks like he worked on his footwork over the offseason. He is closing out on his man shooting 3s better and even getting blocks. The system/strategy could be part of it. I like Rudy a lot, but they received a lot for him, and I still think it was the right move long-term. However, giving them Conley was just stupid. They were imploding, and we should not have done anything to help them. That Laker pick may have value, but you potentially devalue all the Minny picks in trade. They gave up a lot for very little on that trade.
FrenchJazzFa
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Stat don't telll all. Minny defense is awesome and Rudy is the reason why. He should be again DPOY this year. For me, and i watch all Minny games, he get his best season right now. Giving Mike to Minny was a huge mistake. If he don't get touch by ages, and if Minny can find a deal to resign him, they have a 2-3 years window where they will be very good if ANT an MAc Daniels keep improving. Which mean our pick will be peanuts unless we really lucky with our choices ( Bane style).
Yup. Donnie's ego outgrew Utah and he became an aggressive cancer. I would have been happy to keep Rudy though.
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Cancer is bit of a strong word. He was just a baby back bitch
I view Don and Deron similarly. Both became cancerous due to their ego's. Deron looks back with regret, Donovan may too.
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Deron regrets it because his career went to ****. Don's career is fine.
There's still time for his career to go to ****. Let's see if he punks the Cavs.
I view them quite differently. Deron was serious about winning and became an ******* in that regard. A situation was laid out in passivity by KOC and Greg that led to two guys (him and Jerry) wanting to win but being at an impasse. Deron's ego was about doing things his way to win (a lot of truth in it), while Donovan's ego has been about his brand as some kind of mini-Carmelo. Deron left it on the court. Donovan went all out for being "the guy."
After hearing how stubborn Jerry was, I've had a harder time blaming Deron. If he had played under Quin or Will he likely never would have been a problem (and I say that as a huge Sloan fan).
Jerry stayed coaching a year or two too long. The game changed and he couldn't change with it.