Yup. Donnie's ego outgrew Utah and he became an aggressive cancer. I would have been happy to keep Rudy though.
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The elephant in the room (Rudy Gobert)
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Yup. Donnie's ego outgrew Utah and he became an aggressive cancer. I would have been happy to keep Rudy though.
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Cancer is bit of a strong word. He was just a baby back bitch
I view Don and Deron similarly. Both became cancerous due to their ego's. Deron looks back with regret, Donovan may too.
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Deron regrets it because his career went to ****. Don's career is fine.
There's still time for his career to go to ****. Let's see if he punks the Cavs.
I view them quite differently. Deron was serious about winning and became an ******* in that regard. A situation was laid out in passivity by KOC and Greg that led to two guys (him and Jerry) wanting to win but being at an impasse. Deron's ego was about doing things his way to win (a lot of truth in it), while Donovan's ego has been about his brand as some kind of mini-Carmelo. Deron left it on the court. Donovan went all out for being "the guy."
After hearing how stubborn Jerry was, I've had a harder time blaming Deron. If he had played under Quin or Will he likely never would have been a problem (and I say that as a huge Sloan fan).
Jerry stayed coaching a year or two too long. The game changed and he couldn't change with it.
They both became bigger than the team because of their ego. Deron throwing balls at teammates and ignoring his coach, Donovan calling Utah racist and throwing Rudy under the bus. Different but the same. I think they are both good dudes deep down but they both became primadonna's.
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Deron throwing the ball at Hayward is overblown. It was a moment in time, contrasted with Donovan not putting forth any defensive effort for seasons and over multiple playoffs in conjunction with hero-balling late-game situations when he's on a "historic offense" team that has many, many offensive weapons.
As long as he is healthy he's going to have a HOF career.
I disagree that it was a moment in time. I remember many games where Deron was cancerous. They both became bigger than the team due to their ego's. One quit on his team, the other quit on his coach. Different but the same.
"Sloan told D-Will to give him the courtesy by letting him know he was deviating from his instructions. Williams reportedly said something like, “You have the power, I have the juice.” The two then started yelling at each other across the hallway. Later, Jazz owner Greg Williams joined the two at the back, talking but still yelling."